weeyin Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 On 8/28/2024 at 2:58 PM, steelboy said: If you are daft enough to think that mean average is a good way of looking at it then that's obviously what it looks like. Expand I'm smart enough to know "mean average" isn't a thing. However, you asked where the 7 or 8 goals per season came from, so I provided you with the evidence. Maybe you thought 7 or 8 goals per season meant "exactly 7 or 8 goals every season" - in which case I'd suggest your understanding of football stats is "mean average" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 On 8/28/2024 at 3:26 PM, AllyMax said: Yes, it's statistacally a safe conclusion that every other year of his career is an anomoly and the best stats to quantify his career is his last season with us. Expand He's hit double figures 6 times which makes me think he's more likely to do it again than any of our current strikers. Scoring 10-15 is still hugely valuable for a club at our level and we know from watching him he's a very good technical player and creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 On 8/28/2024 at 6:42 PM, steelboy said: He's hit double figures 6 times which makes me think he's more likely to do it again than any of our current strikers. Scoring 10-15 is still hugely valuable for a club at our level and we know from watching him he's a very good technical player and creative. Expand I agree with what you say about his technical ability and creativity but he would be one of those high risk signings that Kettlewell has been slated for in recent times. I must admit though I would still find it an exciting proposition if KVV did come back just to see if he could reproduce the magic one last time. I think the odds would be against him regaining that form though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 I would guess that it would take circa 6k pw to secure his services. Do we really want to splash that kind of cash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 Tbh for me it's only the midfield that needs addressed that's the area we look most vulnerable in so a couple of 6 months loans and we should be home an dry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 On 8/28/2024 at 8:02 PM, Spit_It_Out said: Tbh for me it's only the midfield that needs addressed that's the area we look most vulnerable in so a couple of 6 months loans and we should be home an dry. Expand Pretty much my view. Surely 2 short term loans would meet our needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 I'd say no to KVV... But I might waver. However I don't think we could afford him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 28, 2024 Report Share Posted August 28, 2024 Neither Van Veen nor Vale make any sense to me.. Stamatelopolous will be back soon, Watt, Robinson, Ebiye, Maswanhise and Stuperavic also to return, how many attacking options do we need given we play with one out and out striker normally? Midfield, it really depends on how far away our injured players are. We're operating with four midfielders available at the moment so one injury there away from being really short. Not sure when Paton or Nicholson are due back, to me those two would make a huge difference.. I'd like to see a loan midfielder come in before Friday. But if it doesn't happen, I'll not be panicking. I'd rather not sign anyone than just bringing a player in who isn't able to contribute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claretamberribbon Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 I would go for Alex Lowry on a permanent deal, I could see the same type of pact Ross McCormick had with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 Our midfield is light in numbers . Slattery is a complete unknown if he’ll recover Paton often picks up injuries others are aging and likely to miss games lose Miller and it looks dire . some quality loanees would be a good shout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/28/2024 at 8:54 PM, MelvinBragg said: Neither Van Veen nor Vale make any sense to me.. Stamatelopolous will be back soon, Watt, Robinson, Ebiye, Maswanhise and Stuperavic also to return, how many attacking options do we need given we play with one out and out striker normally? Expand I agree. I don't think another forward is really required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/29/2024 at 8:27 AM, wellsince75 said: Our midfield is light in numbers . Slattery is a complete unknown if he’ll recover Paton often picks up injuries others are aging and likely to miss games lose Miller and it looks dire . some quality loanees would be a good shout Expand Why not offer Ryan Jack a short term or pay per play deal given his fitness concerns, probably won't cost that much. If he stays injury free he's a big upgrade on what we have now, Miller apart., surely worth a punt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/29/2024 at 8:51 AM, Spiderpig said: Why not offer Ryan Jack a short term or pay per play deal given his fitness concerns, probably won't cost that much. If he stays injury free he's a big upgrade on what we have now, Miller apart., surely worth a punt. Expand I think most if not all on here will agree with you on that and I’m sure the club is trying to get something sorted but it will all be down to what other teams offer him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 If KVV had made an impact at killie I could have been tempted but for me midfield is the priority. Would happily take Jack, definitely an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothman Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/29/2024 at 7:17 AM, Claretamberribbon said: I would go for Alex Lowry on a permanent deal, I could see the same type of pact Ross McCormick had with us. Expand Alex Lowry would certainly be a great addition, but could see him heading down to England maybe. Ryan Jack if he's fit, would be a good signing as others have said. I wonder if we have kept an interest in Scott Fraser after he chose to go on loan to Hearts instead of us last season. Didn't exactly set the heather on fire there, but didn't get too much game time to be fair, started 4 games in 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/29/2024 at 12:26 PM, mothman said: Alex Lowry would certainly be a great addition, but could see him heading down to England maybe. Ryan Jack if he's fit, would be a good signing as others have said. I wonder if we have kept an interest in Scott Fraser after he chose to go on loan to Hearts instead of us last season. Didn't exactly set the heather on fire there, but didn't get too much game time to be fair, started 4 games in 6 months. Expand Doesn't have a squad number at Charlton, looks like they're keen to offload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 Not been formally announced by the club yet but Vale is apparently on his way back on loan - sports journalist just tweeted that deal has been agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/29/2024 at 4:53 PM, wellgirl said: Not been formally announced by the club yet but Vale is apparently on his way back on loan - sports journalist just tweeted that deal has been agreed. Expand Wow - that will have us up to 9 first team forwards - quite like vale but can’t understand several of our summer signings no clue what formation we’ll play or whether likes of vale and watt will play in midfield . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 That's the sound of a barrel being scraped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 SK has lost the plot we all know it’s midfield where we struggle and should have signed at least 2 players to go right into the team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothman Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 I agree - Jack Vale was decent enough for us but doesn't make much sense unless we are planning to offload one of our forwards tomorrow, otherwise we're completely overloaded in that department. Not including young Mark Ferrie in that as he would probably benefit from going out on loan anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 If Vale has signed I don't get it. Done well last season but played out of position. Hopefully he doesn't plan on playing him midfield.....you sign midfielders to play that position 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 On 8/29/2024 at 5:11 PM, wellsince75 said: Wow - that will have us up to 9 first team forwards - quite like vale but can’t understand several of our summer signings no clue what formation we’ll play or whether likes of vale and watt will play in midfield . Expand Of course it makes sense: returning to our league winning formation of 2-3-5 and catching all of our opponents on the hop. Invert the pyramid, ya bass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 The only way I see this making any sense is that as his contract with Rovers is up at the end of the season, maybe we’ve some sort of agreement with him that he will sign for us then as I’m assuming Rovers will be paying a good part of his wage at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 29, 2024 Report Share Posted August 29, 2024 Vale to score 10 goals from midfield. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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