weeyin Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 When we signed him, steelboy said Sparrow "would bring heehaw" to the club, so I was quite optimistic he'd be decent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 5 minutes ago, weeyin said: When we signed him, steelboy said Sparrow "would bring heehaw" to the club, so I was quite optimistic he'd be decent. Did he say that in a tweet? 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Caught offside are reporting:- Liverpool, Southampton, Brighton and Newcastle are preparing a €10mil bid for Miller. That translates to £8.2mil Im struggling to believe that but if true....................Jesus Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 6 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: Caught offside are reporting:- Liverpool, Southampton, Brighton and Newcastle are preparing a €10mil bid for Miller. That translates to £8.2mil Im struggling to believe that but if true....................Jesus Christ £8.2 million is a good starting point for negotiations 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 Although £8.2 million might seem like a really high sum for a club of our size, it actually represents solid value when you consider the analytics and projections surrounding Miller. While he hasn’t reached their level yet, there’s no reason why he couldn’t follow a similar trajectory to players like Amadou Onana at Aston Villa or Carlos Baleba at Brighton. Onana, at 23 years old, is five years ahead in his development and far more established, while Baleba, who I believe is 20, is still on the rise. That said, based on his current progress, there’s every chance Miller could reach a similar standard in time and with the proper coaching and development. For context, Onana moved from Hamburg to Lille for around €7 million before Everton signed him for £33 million, and then Villa acquired him for roughly £50 million. Baleba, on the other hand, joined Brighton for £27 million. Even if Miller doesn’t quite hit those heights (though he has the potential to do so), the £8.2 million fee starts to look like a decent investment for any club willing to buy him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Would also be worthwhile seeing if we can also tie it into some arrangement for loan players…… if it’s true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 45 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: Caught offside are reporting:- Liverpool, Southampton, Brighton and Newcastle are preparing a €10mil bid for Miller. That translates to £8.2mil Im struggling to believe that but if true....................Jesus Christ I'd heard Newcastle were in for him last month; seemingly he told them no then, but wouldn't be surprised to see them come back in. He definitely fits with Brighton's development model/pathway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 I don’t think he’ll go anywhere where he won’t be playing. There’s no way he’s going to play in any EPL side right now? He’ll be in their u23 side and get the bench from time to time. That will not suit him. I don’t think championship football will suit him either. Just my opinion but I have a feeling he’ll go abroad but it’ll mean less money for the club? We’ll maybe get a big sell on clause tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 9 minutes ago, mio said: I don’t think he’ll go anywhere where he won’t be playing. There’s no way he’s going to play in any EPL side right now? He’ll be in their u23 side and get the bench from time to time. That will not suit him. I don’t think championship football will suit him either. Just my opinion but I have a feeling he’ll go abroad but it’ll mean less money for the club? We’ll maybe get a big sell on clause tho? No reason it'll mean less money for us? The EPL has silly money I agree but most Serie-A/Bundesliga/French teams can afford to pay £8 million if that's the quoted number and they want Miller to play in their first team. It's down to what we value him at what we'll sell him for. If a club wants him to play in their first team, they should pay what we ask them for/we need to negotiate hard rather than just jumping at the first big bid that comes in. FWIW, I'd take £6 million from a European team with appearance, performance and sell on clauses, which I don't think we'd get from an EPL side as they're the ones likely to buy him from a "lesser" club in Europe for mega-bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 1 minute ago, StAndrew7 said: No reason it'll mean less money for us? The EPL has silly money I agree but most Serie-A/Bundesliga/French teams can afford to pay £8 million if that's the quoted number and they want Miller to play in their first team. It's down to what we value him at what we'll sell him for. If a club wants him to play in their first team, they should pay what we ask them for/we need to negotiate hard rather than just jumping at the first big bid that comes in. FWIW, I'd take £6 million with appearance, performance and sell on clauses. Yeah I think that’s a good amount. I just think Italian sides (where I think he would be best suited) don’t tend to pay fortunes for young players. I think a league like this or Germany would benefit him as a player more than England at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 5 minutes ago, mio said: Yeah I think that’s a good amount. I just think Italian sides (where I think he would be best suited) don’t tend to pay fortunes for young players. I think a league like this or Germany would benefit him as a player more than England at the moment. Yeah, I absolutely agree; his game is far better suited to the continental style, imho. I'd actually be quite happy if he never played in England. The game there's too reliant on brick shithouse midfielders, rather than someone of Miller's stature and style. Ultimately it depends which club is buying him. Bologna paid (or are rumoured to have) paid about £3m for Ferguson. If a team like Atalanta, Juve, Bayern, Leverkusen or whomever wants him we'll get far more. If Liverpool and the others are looking at him, you can bet the other big boys in the top leagues are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 The (tough) question for Miller is will he end up as another face in the development squad with those teams, or will he be given a realistic opportunity to get into the first team. 10 million and back on loan with us, sounds ideal though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Liverpool paid £4.2m for Calvin Ramsay, based on not very much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 1 hour ago, Richie said: Liverpool paid £4.2m for Calvin Ramsay, based on not very much. I had completely forgotten about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 3 hours ago, Richie said: Liverpool paid £4.2m for Calvin Ramsay, based on not very much. Quite similar profiles. Although Miller has played more first team football now than Ramsay did before he moved. Also Miller is a midfielder and inflation in the last 2 years should mean we are looking in excess of that fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Wasn't sure where to post this but I was at calendar signing tonight getting one signed for our best pals son. I know we give them pelters at times but what a great bunch of lads we have. All so pleasant and took time to speak to everyone. I even got a few selfies but avoided saying I was grizzly just incase...🤣 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 5 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Wasn't sure where to post this but I was at calendar signing tonight getting one signed for our best pals son. I know we give them pelters at times but what a great bunch of lads we have. All so pleasant and took time to speak to everyone. I even got a few selfies but avoided saying I was grizzly just incase...🤣 Where did you find out about calender event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 4 hours ago, robsterwood said: Where did you find out about calender event? It was advertised on the club X account, think it was on the website as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 6 hours ago, Spiderpig said: It was advertised on the club X account, think it was on the website as well. Also in the Well Society newsletter a couple of weeks ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted Thursday at 09:17 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:17 AM Kimpioka stalling on contract talks with st Johnstone. Think he would be good addition. Good pace and started scoring. If we did get transfer cash in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted Thursday at 11:03 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:03 AM 1 hour ago, robsterwood said: Kimpioka stalling on contract talks with st Johnstone. Think he would be good addition. Good pace and started scoring. If we did get transfer cash in Jan. Not for me, unless we're offloading Robinson (doubtful given his injury and age), Moses and Tavares. Also, if he's out of contract just PCA him. We need a (sizable/physical) defensive midfielder to shield the back three properly as a priority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted Thursday at 12:01 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:01 PM 2 hours ago, robsterwood said: Kimpioka stalling on contract talks with st Johnstone. Think he would be good addition. Good pace and started scoring. If we did get transfer cash in Jan. He's brutal, we already have a useless striker on the books in Robinson we dont need any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchfindergeneral Posted Thursday at 12:59 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:59 PM 57 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: He's brutal, we already have a useless striker on the books in Robinson we dont need any more Brutal?? He has more goals than all of our strikers combined lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted Thursday at 03:14 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:14 PM 1 hour ago, witchfindergeneral said: Brutal?? He has more goals than all of our strikers combined lmao Yes brutal, His career stats are 14 goals in 94 appearances for club and country (u19, u21) for 6 different clubs over 6 years, yes he's only 24 but hardly prolific We don't need another project, we used up all our luck with Theo Bair, and got Shafted with Robinson, we can do better than Kimpioka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted Thursday at 04:38 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:38 PM 7 hours ago, robsterwood said: Kimpioka stalling on contract talks with st Johnstone. Think he would be good addition. Good pace and started scoring. If we did get transfer cash in Jan. If he's stalling on St J, I'd doubt that we could meet his demands. Also, he's not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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