Spit_It_Out Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I was reading an interview with Jim Goodwin not too long ago and he was saying they have probably got the smallest squad in the league but they key to it is Utility players. That is something we don't have we have players that are pretty much set in positions and maybe a market we should be really looking into after this seasons injury issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: I was reading an interview with Jim Goodwin not too long ago and he was saying they have probably got the smallest squad in the league but they key to it is Utility players. That is something we don't have we have players that are pretty much set in positions and maybe a market we should be really looking into after this seasons injury issues. we have utility players within the squad. Sparrow, SOD, Halliday, Kaleta, Wilson have all played in minimum 2 different positions for us this season. Our issue is we have around 10-12 players who have been out/will be out for a miminimum of 1-2 months. We've also signed 4 players in the summer that have about 7 apearances between them in Jair, Callahan, Stuperavic, Koutrmombis. Dundee Utd have been pretty lucky with injuries compared to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, thewelllfan said: we have utility players within the squad. Sparrow, SOD, Halliday, Kaleta, Wilson have all played in minimum 2 different positions for us this season. Our issue is we have around 10-12 players who have been out/will be out for a miminimum of 1-2 months. We've also signed 4 players in the summer that have about 7 apearances between them in Jair, Callahan, Stuperavic, Koutrmombis. Dundee Utd have been pretty lucky with injuries compared to us. But they haven't been very good at playing those positions let's be honest now. Sparrow gets pass marks that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I found out of the current 33 man squad only 12 have contracts for next season. Aston Oxborough - 2027 Liam Gordon - 2026, Kofi Balmer- 2026, Johnny Koutrombis- 2026, Stephen O'Donnell- 2026, Ewan Wilson- 2027 Lennon Miller- 2026, Tom Sparrow - 2026, Sam Nicholson- 2026, Twanda Maswanhise- 2026, Zach Robinson- 2026, Apostolos Stamatelopolous- 2027 2 of the guys out on loan have deals utill 2026 Dylan Wells and Fillip Stuparevic So 14 under contract for next season and I'd probably be looking at moving 2/3 of them on as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 We just need to get through this season and hopefully get the right manager in and with not many players signed up for next season there should be enough scope to make the desired changes,hopefully we move odonnell on but were most likely stuck with him making mistakes after mistake for another season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: But they haven't been very good at playing those positions let's be honest now. Sparrow gets pass marks that's about it. I think Sparrow has been good in whatever position he gets asked to do a job in. Kaleta been solid enough at LWB when asked to play there. Wilson was brilliant in Cm away at Dundee Utd not a position he should be playing long-term tho. Halliday was ok in the game he had to play LWB and SOD had a good start to the season playing both RWB and Cb. I think in terms of the games they've played out of position they've all done fine. Your not going to get many good utility players in the SPL the last good one we had was Richard Tait and he's been gone what 5/6 years. If we hadn't had so many injuries the squad size would of been 25/26 as it is most seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 47 minutes ago, mfc said: We just need to get through this season and hopefully get the right manager in and with not many players signed up for next season there should be enough scope to make the desired changes,hopefully we move odonnell on but were most likely stuck with him making mistakes after mistake for another season. Yep hopefully we can add a few bits of quality over quantity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 I think the biggest thing this squad lacks is energy. We dont have a lot of legs in the team, particularly in midfield, even with everyone fit. Its good there are a lot out of contract at end of season as it will allow the new manager scope to carry out a rebuilding job (again). I wouldnt be renewing Halliday or Davor. Paton would be okay as a squad player but not essential. Slattery will depend on his recovery and whether he is interested in staying. But if he returns to full fitness Id offer him something. Id punt Robinson and Stuparevic. Koutroumbis, I really have no idea as we have barely seen him play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think the biggest thing this squad lacks is energy. We dont have a lot of legs in the team, particularly in midfield, even with everyone fit. Its good there are a lot out of contract at end of season as it will allow the new manager scope to carry out a rebuilding job (again). I wouldnt be renewing Halliday or Davor. Paton would be okay as a squad player but not essential. Slattery will depend on his recovery and whether he is interested in staying. But if he returns to full fitness Id offer him something. Id punt Robinson and Stuparevic. Koutroumbis, I really have no idea as we have barely seen him play. Totally agree with you it it also lacks leadership and quality. I look at that roster of players available and think who is going to get out out the mud should we get in it and I see nothing. Sod making mistakes left right and centre folk can say what they want but that's the facts we have all witnessed this and he is the team captain. Kettlewells transfers when you step back and look at it has been a horror show that summer window was totally awful.Everyone bangs on about budget but I really don't think it was used properly Watt and Tavares should never have been brought in from a rival club freeing up there wage bill for such mediocre below average players Daws should be held accountable for that. We can only hope the loan guys click together asap with a decent new manager to get us firing with new ideas for me of all the times we have been in a mess this squad actually gives me the worst vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think the biggest thing this squad lacks is energy. We dont have a lot of legs in the team, particularly in midfield, even with everyone fit. Its good there are a lot out of contract at end of season as it will allow the new manager scope to carry out a rebuilding job (again). I wouldnt be renewing Halliday or Davor. Paton would be okay as a squad player but not essential. Slattery will depend on his recovery and whether he is interested in staying. But if he returns to full fitness Id offer him something. Id punt Robinson and Stuparevic. Koutroumbis, I really have no idea as we have barely seen him play. In addition Id be looking to move Blaney, Casey, SOD and Kaletta out. May give Kaletta a reprieve if he sorts himself out between now and the end of the season. The other three we've seen what they can do (or not do for that matter). Lain Gordons coats is on a shooglie peg too for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Kaletta is only on loan. Add to your list the likes of Koutroumbis, Callachan and Ebiye and we're cooking on gas. We only have about 13 or so players signed for next season with a few on option. I think we have the makings of a decent squad and any new manager coming in will have scope to make his own signings in the summer. The squad as it stands, lacks pace, energy and leadership plus a bit of physicality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Kaletta is only on loan. Add to your list the likes of Koutroumbis, Callachan and Ebiye and we're cooking on gas. We only have about 13 or so players signed for next season with a few on option. I think we have the makings of a decent squad and any new manager coming in will have scope to make his own signings in the summer. The squad as it stands, lacks pace, energy and leadership plus a bit of physicality. you forgot ability..... I've still to be convinced we have the makings of a decent squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, FirParkCornerExile said: you forgot ability..... I've still to be convinced we have the makings of a decent squad. Will be interesting to see if the new gaffer can sort that out the defence or whether, as I suspect, Gordon is the only CB that is worth keeping. That has been our biggest issue since SK took over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Gordon did play really well and solid in the first round of game he looked really good. Since then we haven't had a regular line up n McGinn has been missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 37 minutes ago, weeyin said: Will be interesting to see if the new gaffer can sort that out the defence or whether, as I suspect, Gordon is the only CB that is worth keeping. That has been our biggest issue since SK took over. Even he's borderline for me, started well but has been pish for a good while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 45 minutes ago, weeyin said: Will be interesting to see if the new gaffer can sort that out the defence or whether, as I suspect, Gordon is the only CB that is worth keeping. That has been our biggest issue since SK took over. Yes that's 100% on the money. Kettlewell never managed to address this. A good team is built from a solid defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Hopefully the new manager is the type that can find the right balance between attacking and defending, kettlewell put far to much into us giving up possession then trying to defend our box and we were dreadful at it.its looking like it's going to be another big summer for us in terms of recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 and more from the media made up pish department. Has anyone ever seen any of this kinda shite come to pass. https://www.glasgowworld.com/sport/football/motherwell-fc/newcastle-united-cult-hero-ex-wolves-star-applies-motherwell-manager-job-4976644 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 36 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: and more from the media made up pish department. Has anyone ever seen any of this kinda shite come to pass. https://www.glasgowworld.com/sport/football/motherwell-fc/newcastle-united-cult-hero-ex-wolves-star-applies-motherwell-manager-job-4976644 Given its Ben Banks reporting, I would presume Ketsbaia has indeed submitted an application. However, it could well be one of those applications to get your name in the papers to highlight to other clubs that you are available. Even if interested, not sure how comfortable Id be. Feels like the kind of appointment that would throw cash at players he knows that we might need to empty when it inevitably goes Pete Tong. Of course he could just as easily win us the cup and become a club legend! (Not this season obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 I imagine a lot of these "applications" are from agents who submit them on behalf of their clients to every vacancy that opens up. And most of the time without having any clue about the club or its operating environment (or the salary on offer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, weeyin said: I imagine a lot of these "applications" are from agents who submit them on behalf of their clients to every vacancy that opens up. And most of the time without having any clue about the club or its operating environment (or the salary on offer). Correct and the media buy into the shite hook line and sinker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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