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8 weeks for a wrist break is mental. Let’s be honest we’ve forked out a reputed £250k plus decent wages on this fella and it’s been a disaster.

We can’t really afford to write off a big buy for the season but I just hope he is fit by the summer and gets a full pre season and  contributes next year. I think he did show in flashes that he has something…. It’s not as if he’s a John Henry or anything.  But AP has caused us more frustration than anything else this year.

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It's not worked for both parties time to punt him out to clubs back home in the hope we can recoup something out of it.

A player maybe there in him seen glimpses of something but I wouldnt  want to really rely on him to be fit for a great amount of time during a season.

 

 

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2 hours ago, mio said:

8 weeks for a wrist break is mental. Let’s be honest we’ve forked out a reputed £250k plus decent wages on this fella and it’s been a disaster.

There's wrist breaks and wrist breaks. He's probably fallen on it. 8 weeks isn't unreasonable for a bad break. My wife had a very bad break a few years ago. Her wrist had broken into umpteen fragments and she required a metal plate and a bone graft.  

We won't see him again this season. 

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21 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

There's wrist breaks and wrist breaks. He's probably fallen on it. 8 weeks isn't unreasonable for a bad break. My wife had a very bad break a few years ago. Her wrist had broken into umpteen fragments and she required a metal plate and a bone graft.  

We won't see him again this season. 

It's not. When I broke my wrist I was in plaster for 6 weeks and that was a clean break. 

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As it stands, and before his wrist injury, Stama has only featured in 18 of 34 games. His stats by the end of his first full season will likely be 18 from 43 games, no full 90 mins, 5 goals, and 3 medium term injuries. It’s not a great return on our investment, and the chances for it to go a similar way for him next season are now greater given the loads placed on his body appear to keep breaking him. Suffice to say, I don’t think he’s a player we should be relying on for next season. 

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1 hour ago, wellfan said:

As it stands, and before his wrist injury, Stama has only featured in 18 of 34 games. His stats by the end of his first full season will likely be 18 from 43 games, no full 90 mins, 5 goals, and 3 medium term injuries. It’s not a great return on our investment, and the chances for it to go a similar way for him next season are now greater given the loads placed on his body appear to keep breaking him. Suffice to say, I don’t think he’s a player we should be relying on for next season. 

Problem is we can't write off £250k just like that.  I think with wimmer in and a good pre season he can be an asset.  Kettlewell played him as a headless chicken which was bonkers.  The wrist injury is just one of those unfortunate freak accidents 

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3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Problem is we can't write off £250k just like that.  I think with wimmer in and a good pre season he can be an asset.  Kettlewell played him as a headless chicken which was bonkers.  The wrist injury is just one of those unfortunate freak accidents 

It may be a case of writing off a bad debt as, should things go sour again next season for him, the situation is likely to cost us more as we scramble to sign more cover, again.

My view is that it just hasn’t worked for him and us, unfortunately. We should look to rehab him and see if we can reach a reasonable agreement with another club to protect ourselves and get his career back on track. Or we keep him and he becomes an even more costly crock. That’s the risk. 

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10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

……. Or we keep him and he becomes an even more costly crock. That’s the risk. 

Or we keep him and he’s a success next season, we don’t know but no need to panic yet.

If he’s the same next season your doom and gloom approach will have been proven correct but I’m not ready to throw him on the scrap heap over an unfortunate season. Many players go through this in their careers and have then become successful at clubs, why can’t he be the same next season?

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47 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said:

Or we keep him and he’s a success next season, we don’t know but no need to panic yet.

If he’s the same next season your doom and gloom approach will have been proven correct but I’m not ready to throw him on the scrap heap over an unfortunate season. Many players go through this in their careers and have then become successful at clubs, why can’t he be the same next season?

Me neither.

The good thing is all his injuries seem to have been fairly minor one offs in the overall scheme of things.

By that I mean non recurring, breaking down from the same injury time and time again or one that has plagued him in the past.

He may not at times have displayed the physical or mental attributes needed for this league but I'm happy to see him get a good pre season under his belt and see his family hopefully settled.

If it turns out to be a similar pattern next season then maybe we look at the situation again.

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1 hour ago, Stuwell2 said:

Or we keep him and he’s a success next season, we don’t know but no need to panic yet.

If he’s the same next season your doom and gloom approach will have been proven correct but I’m not ready to throw him on the scrap heap over an unfortunate season. Many players go through this in their careers and have then become successful at clubs, why can’t he be the same next season?

I'd like to keep him 

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2 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

Problem is we can't write off £250k just like that.  I think with wimmer in and a good pre season he can be an asset.  Kettlewell played him as a headless chicken which was bonkers.  The wrist injury is just one of those unfortunate freak accidents 

I agree with you that Wimmer will give him a chance to improve under him than what Kettlewell did. It’s just too early to write Stama off.

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