texanwellfan Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, Mad Dog said: How so? He was challenging for the ball when he got injured and it's not easy to make out due to a lack of replays but looks like he may have planted his foot awkwardly. What is his injury? I thought it was like a groin strain which may possibly mean he wasn’t really ready to go yet. (Could mean that but also might not). On the other hand, if he went over on his ankle or something like that, I’d say, for sure, the staff are blame free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 9 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: What is his injury? I thought it was like a groin strain which may possibly mean he wasn’t really ready to go yet. (Could mean that but also might not). On the other hand, if he went over on his ankle or something like that, I’d say, for sure, the staff are blame free. Nah, quad injury. I've had these injuries before and they can come along at random despite being fit and ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 minute ago, Mad Dog said: Nah, quad injury. So possibly not 100% ready but I have no way of knowing. With the other options available you have to think that SK would not have risked him if there had been any doubts about his fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 14 Author Report Share Posted August 14 11 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: What is his injury? I thought it was like a groin strain which may possibly mean he wasn’t really ready to go yet. (Could mean that but also might not). If he was carrying any kind of injury and the medical staff green lit his participation then serious questions need to be asked of the medical team. I really doubt that was the case though. We need to remember that football is a physical sport. Injuries can happen, and they can happen for any reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, David said: We can't allow that to get in the way of yet another chance to moan like f*ck about the manager though. Some on here would moan about him if he won a League and Cup double. They would also blame him if a player injured himself running his car up a lamp post on Airbles Road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 56 minutes ago, steelboy said: Alexander was planning his exit from the second he signed his contract extension. You just need to look at the contracts he was giving out to players to know he didn't have any intention of hanging around. Correct and had we not fluked our way into the top six he would have been gone at the end of that season. As it was we weren’t going to sack a manager who’d got us top since and Europe and he wasn’t going to walk unless a better offer came in. We then had the Sligo shambles and a parting of the ways was the only reasonable outcome for both parties. Stephen Robinson wasn’t without his faults and some of his teams played dreadful stuff too but I’d take him over Graham Alexander any day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, santheman said: Some on here would moan about him if he won a League and Cup double. They would also blame him if a player injured himself running his car up a lamp post on Airbles Road. Stephen Robinson got us to two cup finals in a season losing to Celtic both times. He also had us in 3rd place when the league was terminated due to coronavirus. You only have to look back at the threads at that time to see that a minority of the support were moaning about him then. I think the word imposter was a favourite back then too. We will never, ever get a manager that will satisfy that minority of our support. I am sure that every team has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, MJC said: Correct and had we not fluked our way into the top six How do you fluke a top 6 finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, MJC said: Correct and had we not fluked our way into the top six he would have been gone at the end of that season. As it was we weren’t going to sack a manager who’d got us top since and Europe and he wasn’t going to walk unless a better offer came in. We then had the Sligo shambles and a parting of the ways was the only reasonable outcome for both parties. Stephen Robinson wasn’t without his faults and some of his teams played dreadful stuff too but I’d take him over Graham Alexander any day of the week. I suffered like most watching us under Alexander. But last I checked you earned your place based on total points won. So to say he fluked top six is just making things up for effect. He got there through his approach, which proved successful until other Managers sussed him out. He earned top six and to say otherwise insults him and our players. Did you celebrate when we achieved top half? I wanted Alexander gone, but based on what I was watching on the pitch and based on his refusal to change things up when needed. His time was up. Football had become a chore and matches were attended through loyalty rather than anticipation. But he did achieve results for a while. I agree re Robinson though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 21 minutes ago, star sail said: How do you fluke a top 6 finish? Same way you fluke missing out on the top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 44 minutes ago, star sail said: How do you fluke a top 6 finish? By timing your run over 33 games and 9 months to score a last minute equaliser (you have to manipulate another 6 teams results to make it work out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 The Stockholm syndrome on display on this forum is amusing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, ropy said: By timing your run over 33 games and 9 months to score a last minute equaliser (you have to manipulate another 6 teams results to make it work out). 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, wellfan said: The Stockholm syndrome on display on this forum is amusing. I don't think you know what Stockholm Syndrome is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 11 minutes ago, grumpy said: I don't think you know what Stockholm Syndrome is. I was being facetious, but it was quicker than typing out my opinion that several people on this forum would still claim it was a cat that shat on their sofa after watching Kettlewell sitting on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 I think we should have went for Jack and not a number of injury prone players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, wellfan said: I was being facetious, but it was quicker than typing out my opinion that several people on this forum would still claim it was a cat that shat on their sofa after watching Kettlewell sitting on it. Not quicker, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, grumpy said: I don't think you know what Stockholm Syndrome is. Yeah. It's a trauma bond where people suffering from things like domestic violence or being kidnapped have positive thoughts about their abusers to try and cope with their situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, weeyin said: Not quicker, then. My original post was shorter, although the flippant nature of my word choice seems to be lost on some who’ve felt the need to take it literally. 56 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Yeah. It's a trauma bond where people suffering from things like domestic violence or being kidnapped have positive thoughts about their abusers to try and cope with their situation. Google facetious next and tell the forum what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 7 hours ago, wellfan said: I was being facetious, but it was quicker than typing out my opinion that several people on this forum would still claim it was a cat that shat on their sofa after watching Kettlewell sitting on it. You ok, have you been drinking 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 8 hours ago, grumpy said: I don't think you know what Stockholm Syndrome is. Was also a decent song by Muse 🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 8 hours ago, robsterwood said: I think we should have went for Jack and not a number of injury prone players. His injury history isn't good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 On 8/13/2024 at 10:01 PM, Chanzeypopz said: Oh god i'v just heard the new🫤 Not really sure how i feel about him coming back, He will be a hero if he pulls it off and a villain if he doesnt 😂 A hero for Motherwell and a villain to Kilmarnock yes? 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 12 hours ago, dennyc said: I suffered like most watching us under Alexander. But last I checked you earned your place based on total points won. So to say he fluked top six is just making things up for effect. He got there through his approach, which proved successful until other Managers sussed him out. He earned top six and to say otherwise insults him and our players. Did you celebrate when we achieved top half? I wanted Alexander gone, but based on what I was watching on the pitch and based on his refusal to change things up when needed. His time was up. Football had become a chore and matches were attended through loyalty rather than anticipation. But he did achieve results for a while. I agree re Robinson though. We won one, perhaps two league games between the January and the split that season and when 0-2 down at Livingston we’re heading for bottom six until we scraped a last gasp leveller and other results going our way over several weeks helped our cause no end. It was a fluke, no two ways about it. If anything the credit should go to Tony Watt for his goals in the first half of 21/22 otherwise we would have been in relegation trouble never mind in with a shout of top six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, MJC said: We won one, perhaps two league games between the January and the split that season and when 0-2 down at Livingston we’re heading for bottom six until we scraped a last gasp leveller and other results going our way over several weeks helped our cause no end. It was a fluke, no two ways about it. If anything the credit should go to Tony Watt for his goals in the first half of 21/22 otherwise we would have been in relegation trouble never mind in with a shout of top six. The final league position you end up in over 38 games is no fluke it's what you have earned points wise the table never lies, so its either top and champions, bottom and relegated or somewhere in between. We earned enough points that season to be in with a shout of the top 6 in our own hands going into that final game at Livingston, so no need for favours from other teams. And by not getting beat, earning a point we got a shot at Europe. So it was no fluke we earned that league finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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