grizzlyg Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 Is Ryan Jack signing? Injury issues so fits in with our policy but actually would happily take him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 He’s probably waiting for a better deal elsewhere but if nothing come up you never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 31 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Is Ryan Jack signing? Injury issues so fits in with our policy but actually would happily take him He was watching the game today among the rest of our players that werent in the squad,granted that doesn't mean a whole lot but apparently we have offered him a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 6 minutes ago, mfc said: He was watching the game today among the rest of our players that werent in the squad,granted that doesn't mean a whole lot but apparently we have offered him a deal. Was Stama there or is he away home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 21 minutes ago, steelboy said: Was Stama there or is he away home? Was sitting a few seats along from Jack and Nicholson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 17 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said: Was sitting a few seats along from Jack and Nicholson. That's good. Jet lag probably contributed to his muscle injury so it's better if he stays here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 20 minutes ago, steelboy said: That's good. Jet lag probably contributed to his muscle injury so it's better if he stays here. "You just wouldn't let it go, would you?" 😱 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 Always felt Ryan Jack was really underrated. He was always panned by the tartan army and Aberdeen fans, Aberdeen fans I can understand but the tartan army thing might have been the rangers connection? or that the majority of the tartan army haven’t a clue about football…. (Sorry just my view, I’m sure the Motherwell tartan army are clued up) if we can get him on a pay per game thing I’d be pleased with that but signing him long term with his injury issues is a bit of a worry. Although I do recall we signed Phil back when he’d played something like 5 games in 3 years and he was phenomenal for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 21 minutes ago, mio said: Always felt Ryan Jack was really underrated. He was always panned by the tartan army and Aberdeen fans, Aberdeen fans I can understand but the tartan army thing might have been the rangers connection? or that the majority of the tartan army haven’t a clue about football…. (Sorry just my view, I’m sure the Motherwell tartan army are clued up) if we can get him on a pay per game thing I’d be pleased with that but signing him long term with his injury issues is a bit of a worry. Although I do recall we signed Phil back when he’d played something like 5 games in 3 years and he was phenomenal for us. Phil was training with us after finding himself without a club. We had much longer to look at him before signing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 On 8/17/2024 at 2:36 PM, wellfan said: Maybe if Jack had a greater determination to succeed he wouldn’t have been out injured for 900+ days of his professional career. That's a contradiction surely...if he's injured he's injured, nothing to do with a lack of determination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 5 minutes ago, AllyMax said: Phil was training with us after finding himself without a club. We had much longer to look at him before signing him. I can’t remember how long Phil trained with us before signing? You have a better memory than me. jacks been training with us a couple of weeks so I suppose we’ll see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 25 minutes ago, wellon said: That's a contradiction surely...if he's injured he's injured, nothing to do with a lack of determination I was being sarcastic. Re-read the post that my post was in response to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 So, the 'new guy' who's name I canny remember, spell or pronounce, has a kinda 'Biereth' feeling about him to me. Product of a (normally) EPL club who hasn't played for them. Has obvious skills (like ball control, pace and the ability to do things with it) that we don't normally see. Will come here and prob be a big talking point for a few months and then go somewhere with loads more money than us, but if he sets up goals regularly for a few months, that'll do for me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, AllyMax said: So, the 'new guy' who's name I canny remember, spell or pronounce, has a kinda 'Biereth' feeling about him to me. Product of a (normally) EPL club who hasn't played for them. Has obvious skills (like ball control, pace and the ability to do things with it) that we don't normally see. Will come here and prob be a big talking point for a few months and then go somewhere with loads more money than us, but if he sets up goals regularly for a few months, that'll do for me ! His deal runs to January, with the option to extend beyond that, but I wouldn't expect him to be here for too long if he continues to perform as well as he did today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 Apparently Ryan Jack is going to be signing for us from what I heard. (Take with a pinch of salt). If so I'm not massively keen but if he stays fit obviously a great player concerned with his injury record and the way our squad is currently looking. New boy looks very good. Reckon that will be us done business wise if Jack comes in as squad will be huge for a club of our size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davkel Posted August 18 Report Share Posted August 18 Jack has been training with the 1st team all week .. nothing more to it just now .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 10 hours ago, thewelllfan said: Apparently Ryan Jack is going to be signing for us from what I heard. (Take with a pinch of salt). If so I'm not massively keen but if he stays fit obviously a great player concerned with his injury record and the way our squad is currently looking. New boy looks very good. Reckon that will be us done business wise if Jack comes in as squad will be huge for a club of our size. We'd still need an attacking midfielder as we saw yesterday. Miller, Jack and a Spittal replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, steelboy said: We'd still need an attacking midfielder as we saw yesterday. Miller, Jack and a Spittal replacement. I'd argue given the size of the squad, rather than a Spittal replacement, we need to find a way of playing that doesn't require a Spittal replacement. Whether that's 352 with a flat midfield three in an early Stephen Robinson style or 433 with a flat midfield three and Watt and Maswanhise either side of a striker, I don't know. And don't particularly care. Just find a system that suits the players we have... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, MelvinBragg said: I'd argue given the size of the squad, rather than a Spittal replacement, we need to find a way of playing that doesn't require a Spittal replacement. Whether that's 352 with a flat midfield three in an early Stephen Robinson style or 433 with a flat midfield three and Watt and Maswanhise either side of a striker, I don't know. And don't particularly care. Just find a system that suits the players we have... I'd love for us to move to a 433 with the players we have, but I don't think Kettlewell will deviate from what we've come accustomed to seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 If you look at it like this. Hegyi- Gk Koutrumbis- RWB/CB ,Kaleta- RWB, Balmer- CB, Gordon- CB, Seddon-LWB Callahan-Cm, Slattery- CM, Sparrow- Cm, Nicholson - AM/Winger, Halliday- CM/LWB Stuparevic- ST, Watt- St/Wide, Stamatelopulos- St, Maswanhise- St/Winger Robinson - ST/Winger We have 6 Strikers at the club, (4 Fit) and playing with 1 upfront with Lennon Miller and Ewan Wilson either side of them then wondering why we aren't scoring as many as last season. Our business over the summer shows a plan to play in a 352/343 Imo but that's not been what's happened at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 14 hours ago, thewelllfan said: Apparently Ryan Jack is going to be signing for us from what I heard. (Take with a pinch of salt). If so I'm not massively keen but if he stays fit obviously a great player concerned with his injury record and the way our squad is currently looking. New boy looks very good. Reckon that will be us done business wise if Jack comes in as squad will be huge for a club of our size. If it comes down to a choice then I'd rather Jack.......than Fleetwood Mac!!. Ba boom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 2 hours ago, MelvinBragg said: I'd argue given the size of the squad, rather than a Spittal replacement, we need to find a way of playing that doesn't require a Spittal replacement. Whether that's 352 with a flat midfield three in an early Stephen Robinson style or 433 with a flat midfield three and Watt and Maswanhise either side of a striker, I don't know. And don't particularly care. Just find a system that suits the players we have... The cost of bringing the player we need will be less than the cost of not having an attacking centre mid. League position, cup runs, Lennon Miller's value, crowds and growing the support will all suffer if we continue with this season's brutal style of play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchfindergeneral Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 I posted this on P&B, this isn't how I would pick the team but I'm trying to go with SK's thinking for the XI. Bench could be anyone: Oxborough SOD, McGinn, Gordon, Casey, Seddon Miller, Zdravkovski, Slattery Stamatelopoulos, Watt Bench: Hegyi, Kaleta, Balmer, Wilson, Paton, Halliday, Stuparevic, Moses, Robinson? This would leave out: Blaney, Koutroumbis, Callachan, Sparrow, Nicholson & Maswanhise. Loans out: Ferrie, L Ross, M Ross, Wells, McDermott. Would probably need to loan out a couple of senior players too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 23 minutes ago, steelboy said: The cost of bringing the player we need will be less than the cost of not having an attacking centre mid. League position, cup runs, Lennon Miller's value, crowds and growing the support will all suffer if we continue with this season's brutal style of play. 100 percent we could be one player away from actually having a pretty decent season however Kettlewell doesn't want to address the Attacking Mid position properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 11 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: 100 percent we could be one player away from actually having a pretty decent season however Kettlewell doesn't want to address the Attacking Mid position properly. Seriously ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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