weeyin Posted Tuesday at 02:17 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:17 PM 15 minutes ago, steelboy said: We'll probably still sign him again. I don't think his return to Blackburn means we've "unsigned" him - he'll still likely be operating under his loan contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Tuesday at 02:47 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:47 PM 34 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: What is the injury? https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/09/24/jack-vale-injury-update/ Sustained in training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted Tuesday at 03:47 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:47 PM 57 minutes ago, wellfan said: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/09/24/jack-vale-injury-update/ Sustained in training. Who would loan us players and expect to get them back in one piece. What a horrendous injury record we have no way its just bad luck. Something is a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Tuesday at 04:11 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:11 PM 22 minutes ago, stv said: Who would loan us players and expect to get them back in one piece. What a horrendous injury record we have no way its just bad luck. Something is a miss. Reports suggest we’ve conducted a review of our training methods, which is fair enough, but it does give off vibes of marking your own homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Tuesday at 04:14 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:14 PM It does start to get the feel it's not all down to bad luck. If it's injuries during games then you can accept as part and parcel but just seems too many being injured in training. Not a case of blaming one person but definitely something that needs to be looked at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted Tuesday at 06:06 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:06 PM 1 hour ago, grizzlyg said: It does start to get the feel it's not all down to bad luck. If it's injuries during games then you can accept as part and parcel but just seems too many being injured in training. Not a case of blaming one person but definitely something that needs to be looked at Mate of mine has heard it has been looked at and nothing seems to be "up" (someone has said the same over on P&B). Like even discussing methods and drills with other teams and experts and there's nothing there other than bad luck. Kettlewell has been on the record several times saying that we investigated all the training injuries last season and made adjustments as a result of them, too. It's perhaps bad luck, it's perhaps our medical team missing things. Vale trained with us for half a season last year and didn't get crocked like this. Thankfully we're pretty stacked up top even with injuries right now so I'm not too concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM The problem is that's is a relatively small sample size and could just be bad luck. It feels, however, like we've been having these issues under successive coaching regimes, so a more detailed review of the methods is definitely needed. Of course, the fact that one of our strategies has been to sign players recovering-from or prone-to injury and with "something to prove" may have exacerbated the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted Tuesday at 09:03 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:03 PM 6 hours ago, steelboy said: We'll probably still sign him again. Think he’s still signed and will be back, just that they feel he’s better recuperating with their physio’s overseeing his recovery rather than our, which I’d like to think we’d do with one of our boys who was on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothman Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Noticed in this weeks press conference when asked about the injured players progress, SK made no mention of Filip Stuparević - then also noticed he is no longer in the squad list on our website... Wonder if he's offski 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witchfindergeneral Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 23 minutes ago, mothman said: Noticed in this weeks press conference when asked about the injured players progress, SK made no mention of Filip Stuparević - then also noticed he is no longer in the squad list on our website... Wonder if he's offski 🤔 Loaned to Morton, happy with that as hopefully it helps him get up to speed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said: Loaned to Morton, happy with that as hopefully it helps him get up to speed Aye, I think it's probably best for him. He's behind Maswanhise, Tavares, Stama, Robinson, Moses and Watt in the pecking order. He'd basically just be training and not playing unless we have another mental run of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago I can only assume that its his application that is the issue. He clearly has some talent given the clubs he has been at, but he has never made it at any of them. The fact we are farming him out so quickly after giving him a 2 year deal (with a 3rd year option) is a concern. Hopefully he has been told to go and get used to the Scottish game and come back fit and ready to stake his claim in the starting 11. It would be pretty shit for him, but mostly us, if his Motherwell career is over a couple of months in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 24 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I can only assume that its his application that is the issue. He clearly has some talent given the clubs he has been at, but he has never made it at any of them. The fact we are farming him out so quickly after giving him a 2 year deal (with a 3rd year option) is a concern. Hopefully he has been told to go and get used to the Scottish game and come back fit and ready to stake his claim in the starting 11. It would be pretty shit for him, but mostly us, if his Motherwell career is over a couple of months in. I think you're spot on with your middle point. The rest I think might be passing judgement a little too soon/making some presumptions (which we all are at this point, it's a forum for discussion after all). We've seen SK mutual players he felt were useless (Danzaki etc.) and given he's not really needed by us currently, this makes most sense for his development and integration into the Scottish game. Like you say, he's got a 2-year deal; hopefully this helps him settle down and apply himself to be a part of the squad next year, or before if we recall him. I do wonder if this points to us extending Maswanhise? Kettlewell has a good record of developing strikers/getting the best out of them; however, that's been whilst playing them consistently and also giving them coaching. Stup was never going to get the former this season, given Robinson, Moses and Stama are in front of him in the pecking order. I'm not going to give up on him yet, but I can see some warning signs much like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago Just as I like to give players that start slow time to develop, I also like to give time to players who make a quick impact - because the real test for them is how the cope when the opposition managers suss them out (like Goodwin's tactics against Maswanhise). So while I like what I've seen so far, I'd like to see a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago Even though it's a season long I wouldn't be shocked if he has until the 1st of January to actually look like he could do something and if he doesn't it will be the old 'mutual termination of contract'and he hot foots it out of Scotland. I don't expect to see him in a Well shirt again tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Strange Morton is the preferred loan club considering the way Imrie sets his team up and is all about 100% effort and closing players down and that is what seems to be lacking in Stupas game. Might be the exact reason he's going there to learn the dark arts right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, weeyin said: Just as I like to give players that start slow time to develop, I also like to give time to players who make a quick impact - because the real test for them is how the cope when the opposition managers suss them out (like Goodwin's tactics against Maswanhise). So while I like what I've seen so far, I'd like to see a little more. To be honest i think it was more our fault than anything Goodwin did. We played him through the middle & he certainly appeared far more effective on the wing & cutting inside as he was doing v hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Big Stall said: To be honest i think it was more our fault than anything Goodwin did. We played him through the middle & he certainly appeared far more effective on the wing & cutting inside as he was doing v hearts That could well be true. My only concern is that his main trick is cutting inside. One one hand, that was Jake Hastie's main trick too and teams found a way to prevent that after a few successful outings. On the other hand, Jamie Murphy made a successful career of coming inside from the wing. So I'm hoping he continues down the Murphy path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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