joewarkfanclub Posted October 14, 2024 Report Share Posted October 14, 2024 On 10/14/2024 at 5:06 PM, steelboy said: @Cameron_Mcd That's hilarious. I came on here I think in March and said he was the worst goalkeeper in the league and people were not having it. Even i didn't think he was that much worse than Shamal George. Expand That stat doesnt by itself make him the worst keeper in the league. I accept it doesnt make good reading and Im not sad he has moved on. But you have to also look at the defence each keeper played behind. Our overall defensive record last year was honking. Yes, Kelly had a part to play in that, but it wasnt all him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 14, 2024 Report Share Posted October 14, 2024 There is no doubt at the moment that Ox appears to be an upgrade on Kelly. Taking pressure off the defence by coming for cross balls is a huge benefit. His shot stopping has been pretty decent as well. But one of the things that seems to go unoticed or at least not mentioned is his distribution. I dont recall him kicking the ball out of the park once this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted October 15, 2024 Report Share Posted October 15, 2024 Good shot stopper is a kindness, all goalies are good shot stoppers, that's why they play there, there are other rudiments for being a keeper that are important, but good shot stopper is where your goalie career starts, who was the last marginal keeper that was not a good shot stopper? Stevie Woods could make saves all day but his awareness and concentration were honking. Is Ox an upgrade? Partially, we upgraded our defenders too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 15, 2024 Report Share Posted October 15, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 4:03 AM, Yabba's Turd said: Good shot stopper is a kindness, all goalies are good shot stoppers, that's why they play there, there are other rudiments for being a keeper that are important, but good shot stopper is where your goalie career starts, who was the last marginal keeper that was not a good shot stopper? Stevie Woods could make saves all day but his awareness and concentration were honking. Is Ox an upgrade? Partially, we upgraded our defenders too. Expand Aaron Chapman? 😆😆😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted October 15, 2024 Report Share Posted October 15, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:49 AM, joewarkfanclub said: Aaron Chapman? 😆😆😆 Expand Jeez!!!! Nightmare. This is reason we should be grateful for Kelly as if we hadn't got him on loan we would have been doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted October 15, 2024 Report Share Posted October 15, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 4:03 AM, Yabba's Turd said: Good shot stopper is a kindness, all goalies are good shot stoppers, that's why they play there, there are other rudiments for being a keeper that are important, but good shot stopper is where your goalie career starts, who was the last marginal keeper that was not a good shot stopper? Stevie Woods could make saves all day but his awareness and concentration were honking. Is Ox an upgrade? Partially, we upgraded our defenders too. Expand Ox is a big upgrade on Kelly now that we've seen what he can do, which makes it even more annoying that SK stuck with Kelly all of last season, considering the number of points he cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackscat Posted October 15, 2024 Report Share Posted October 15, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:49 AM, joewarkfanclub said: Aaron Chapman? 😆😆😆 Expand Now plying his trade with national league north side Hereford, since leaving us has had about 7 clubs, highest level was Gillingham who got relegated, seems to play about 10 games at most then moved on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted October 15, 2024 Report Share Posted October 15, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 4:03 AM, Yabba's Turd said: Good shot stopper is a kindness, all goalies are good shot stoppers, that's why they play there, there are other rudiments for being a keeper that are important, but good shot stopper is where your goalie career starts, who was the last marginal keeper that was not a good shot stopper? Stevie Woods could make saves all day but his awareness and concentration were honking. Is Ox an upgrade? Partially, we upgraded our defenders too. Expand I can't bring myself to take about Stevie Woods. Would have won the league with a better keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2024 On 10/14/2024 at 5:06 PM, steelboy said: I came on here I think in March and said he was the worst goalkeeper in the league and people were not having it. Expand Yeah, but you also claimed that numerous other players in our team were "the worst in the league," so you were always going to be correct at some point. A broken clock etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted October 16, 2024 Report Share Posted October 16, 2024 We certainly had the worst defence in the league, but I'd say the comedy defending antics of Butcher, Blaney, Casey and Mugabi (to name a few) were more responsible for that. Difficult to compare when we were giving up free shots and headers half a dozen times per game. Likewise when Gordon passed the ball to St Mirren and SOD gave away the ball against Hibs, Ox conceded 2 goals. I wouldn't blame him for conceding either one, but that's what Kelly was up against for an entire season. It has a knock-on effect. Defenders are poor, the keeper loses confidence and makes mistakes. The keeper makes mistakes and the defenders lose even more confidence - and so it goes on. That's why I was a proponent of ditching all the central defenders and the keeper in the summer and rebuilding from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 Ewan Wilson signs a new deal until 2027 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 9:52 AM, mfc said: Ewan Wilson signs a new deal until 2027 Expand Great news. Is that all our saleable assets tied up? Be nice to get Miller on an extra year extension. But that will fepend very much on the goodwill of the player and his family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 This is excellent stuff from the club AND the players. I’m sure there’s some wording in there somewhere about a future move and the club willing to be flexible to work with on any reasonable offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 That’s McGinn out for the foreseeable. I ask again, what the fuck are we doing in training to lead to this amount of soft tissue injuries?! https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/10/17/paul-mcginn-to-spend-time-on-sidelines/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 2:39 PM, wellfan said: I ask again, what the fuck are we doing in training to lead to this amount of soft tissue injuries?! Expand He literally kicked a football. I'm not sure how that could have been avoided. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 3:04 PM, David said: He literally kicked a football. I'm not sure how that could have been avoided. Expand Footballer kicks football. Superb observation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 1:56 PM, texanwellfan said: This is excellent stuff from the club AND the players. I’m sure there’s some wording in there somewhere about a future move and the club willing to be flexible to work with on any reasonable offers. Expand Caldwell setting about this very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted October 17, 2024 Report Share Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 2:39 PM, wellfan said: That’s McGinn out for the foreseeable. I ask again, what the fuck are we doing in training to lead to this amount of soft tissue injuries?! https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/10/17/paul-mcginn-to-spend-time-on-sidelines/ Expand He’s 34 this month . Suspect he’s at the point where he’ll pick up injuries . I know we’ve picked up lots of training injuries , I put this down to some of the signing of players who are aging or had several injuries . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted October 18, 2024 Report Share Posted October 18, 2024 Looks like Shaun Rooney is avilable 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted October 18, 2024 Report Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 10/18/2024 at 10:34 AM, steelman1991 said: Looks like Shaun Rooney is avilable 😀 Expand His next job will be with whatever club that wee rodent Si Ferry is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted October 18, 2024 Report Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 10/18/2024 at 11:05 AM, wellfan said: His next job will be with whatever club that wee rodent Si Ferry is at. Expand Or end up at Ayr in January; Broony signed him for Fleetwood, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted October 18, 2024 Report Share Posted October 18, 2024 The real question is which ex-Well player will they sign to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted October 18, 2024 Report Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 10/18/2024 at 11:47 AM, weeyin said: The real question is which ex-Well player will they sign to replace him. Expand Can josh morris play rwb?🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted October 18, 2024 Report Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 10/18/2024 at 1:31 PM, well_said said: Can josh morris play rwb?🤣 Expand Now that is funny!!. A classic Alexander signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 21, 2024 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 4:15 PM, wellfan said: Footballer kicks football. Superb observation. Expand Speak to the manager. It was his "superb observation." It basically shows that you can have the best training plan in the game, and sometimes shit still happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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