weeyin Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 4:20 PM, Mortonhallwell said: My worry is that Septic came in for heavy criticism after losing out on John McGinn and won't want to make the same mistake twice. However I desperately hope he does not end up at Parkhead. Expand I think the criticism was more to do with his family connections. With his grandfather being an ex-Celtic chairman, it was assumed by many he would be a cert to sign for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game. Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in. Boy looks as if he needs a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 4:59 PM, santheman said: I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game. Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in. Boy looks as if he needs a rest. Expand It’s admirable that he wants to play but I agree. He’s had a lot of football this year and I think this should be managed slightly better. I personally think Kettlewell should have been informing him to not get involved in these u19 games as they will not benefit him in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 4:59 PM, santheman said: I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game. Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in. Boy looks as if he needs a rest. Expand 100% agree. He also looked tired and jaded at the weekend. Maybe we should rest him in Dingwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 I'm even more worried that he gets injured playing for Scotland U19. We can't afford him to be out for a run of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 13, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 It's absolutely wild that he's still being picked for the under-19's in my opinion. No doubt the very minute he makes a move elsewhere he'll be right into that senior international side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 6:15 PM, David said: It's absolutely wild that he's still being picked for the under-19's in my opinion. No doubt the very minute he makes a move elsewhere he'll be right into that senior international side. Expand According to his dad, it was Miller that wanted to play for the 19s. Quote "It was him that wanted to play in those games which I think is testament to himself. He just wants to play football and get as many minutes in the tank as possible. And enjoy playing with his age group that he's grown up with and playing against and with over the years." Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 6:45 PM, weeyin said: According to his dad, it was Miller that wanted to play for the 19s. Expand Does his dad pay his wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 I've got to be honest 5.3M with a sell on clause is good business but I'd rather we get about 6/7M upfront + a smaller sell on clause especially if he goes to Celtic cos I can only see his value dropping from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 13, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 6:45 PM, weeyin said: According to his dad, it was Miller that wanted to play for the 19s. Expand I wonder if he'd have felt the same way had he been called up to the senior squad, as he should be now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 12:24 PM, SteelmaninOZ said: The cash could pay for a new pod no? Expand I've a feeling that you're right...its no coincidence that there have been murmurings of working groups and such looking at the viability of restructuring areas of the ground, just at the optimum time to punt the clubs cash cow. On 11/13/2024 at 4:59 PM, santheman said: I'm more worried about how tired he looked in the u19 game. Another 2 games in 7 days which I'm assuming he will play in. Boy looks as if he needs a rest. Expand I agree...he looks knackered. He's an 18 year old kid who, apart from playing constantly, is now the captain and has incessant speculation on his future to contend with. The fact the SFA called him up to the 19s was ludicrous but the fact we didn't insist on his withdrawal was criminal...although I understand that the player would have the final say. On 11/13/2024 at 7:02 PM, thewelllfan said: I've got to be honest 5.3M with a sell on clause is good business but I'd rather we get about 6/7M upfront + a smaller sell on clause especially if he goes to Celtic cos I can only see his value dropping from there. Expand He's an outstanding 18 year old player playing in the SPL for a smallish provincial club...I'd love these figures to be accurate but I have my doubts that we'd be demanding that type of cash and that there will be clubs out there willing to pay it. Quick question...what's folks thoughts on the Turnbull v Miller debate? Who was the better player in a Motherwell jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 7:26 PM, 0Neils40yarder said: I've a feeling that you're right...its no coincidence that there have been murmurings of working groups and such looking at the viability of restructuring areas of the ground, just at the optimum time to punt the clubs cash cow. I agree...he looks knackered. He's an 18 year old kid who, apart from playing constantly, is now the captain and has incessant speculation on his future to contend with. The fact the SFA called him up to the 19s was ludicrous but the fact we didn't insist on his withdrawal was criminal...although I understand that the player would have the final say. He's an outstanding 18 year old player playing in the SPL for a smallish provincial club...I'd love these figures to be accurate but I have my doubts that we'd be demanding that type of cash and that there will be clubs out there willing to pay it. Quick question...what's folks thoughts on the Turnbull v Miller debate? Who was the better player in a Motherwell jersey? Expand Miller is a better all round player, but I'd pick Turnbull every single time due to the goals and assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 7:26 PM, 0Neils40yarder said: Quick question...what's folks thoughts on the Turnbull v Miller debate? Who was the better player in a Motherwell jersey? Expand I reckon Miller's probably technically+ definitely physically better and more equipped to move up a few levels and really shine in the modern game- but I think you'd be mental to say that Turnbull didn't have a bigger impact on games week to week than Miller has had so far. To be fair I'm not even sure if Turnbull had made his debut by the age Miller is now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 7:43 PM, Yassin said: I reckon Miller's probably technically+ definitely physically better and more equipped to move up a few levels and really shine in the modern game- but I think you'd be mental to say that Turnbull didn't have a bigger impact on games week to week than Miller has had so far. To be fair I'm not even sure if Turnbull had made his debut by the age Miller is now? Expand Miller , Turnbull and Faddy are all players who will last long in the memory and all 3 quite different players. If I was a little bit older then Mclair and McAllister would also be on the list. All bloody good players who each brought something special to FP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 8:34 PM, wellsince75 said: Miller , Turnbull and Faddy are all players who will last long in the memory and all 3 quite different players. If I was a little bit older then Mclair and McAllister would also be on the list. All bloody good players who each brought something special to FP. Expand We signed Mclair from Aston Villa and Mcfadden from Hearts I think, they weren't academy products as such (from memory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 10:40 PM, Yabba's Turd said: We signed Mclair from Aston Villa and Mcfadden from Hearts I think, they weren't academy products as such (from memory) Expand Brian McLair certainly signed for us after being at Aston Villa youths but I had to go and check about Faddy as I had never heard of the Hearts link. We seem to be the only team listed on his youth career from aged 15. But there is an article in the Daily Record saying that he had signed S-forms with Hearts but was training with us. In the interview Faddy says he was training at Motherwell from aged 12. So no idea what the actual situation was with Hearts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On the Turnbull v Miller debate. Turnbull certainly had more impact with his goals but he didnt debut until 18. Millers has already played 50 games at the same age so his ceiling is probably far higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 11:17 PM, joewarkfanclub said: Brian McLair certainly signed for us after being at Aston Villa youths but I had to go and check about Faddy as I had never heard of the Hearts link. We seem to be the only team listed on his youth career from aged 15. But there is an article in the Daily Record saying that he had signed S-forms with Hearts but was training with us. In the interview Faddy says he was training at Motherwell from aged 12. So no idea what the actual situation was with Hearts? Expand Yeah Faddy is murky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 For me, Gary McAllister's still the standard for success in recent times.. After we set him on the road with his first winner's medal (Scottish First Division) he won the English First Division - before the EPL was invented - the FA Cup, the League Cup and, of course, was instrumental in helping Liverpool win the UEFA Cup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 Turnbull for me but as others have said, Miller is younger. Turnbulls impact in games was brilliant to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 11:37 PM, weeyin said: For me, Gary McAllister's still the standard for success in recent times.. After we set him on the road with his first winner's medal (Scottish First Division) he won the English First Division - before the EPL was invented - the FA Cup, the League Cup and, of course, was instrumental in helping Liverpool win the UEFA Cup. Expand Recent times? The guys the same age as me, left Motherwell in 1985, 39 years ago - reminds me of the time I was talking to my kids about the miners strike and said you must have covered this in modern studies and they said don’t be daft it’s more than 30 years ago - that’s done in history! Apart from that, he was definitely the best midfielder we’ve produced in my time watching Motherwell and that’s taking nothing away from DT and LM. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 Ian St John is my cut-off. Anything after his move to Liverpool = recent Anything prior to his move to Liverpool = before my time. (Although sometimes I split it between post SPL and pre SPL). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 I still think we recently won the 1st division with Davie Hay in charge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted November 15, 2024 Report Share Posted November 15, 2024 On 11/14/2024 at 11:58 PM, Yabba's Turd said: I still think we recently won the 1st division with Davie Hay in charge Expand Exactly. I've got a leather jacket I still call "my new one" I bought it in 2003. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted November 16, 2024 Report Share Posted November 16, 2024 On 11/12/2024 at 9:03 PM, grizzlyg said: No chance he will be at ibrox. Wayyyyyy out their budget Expand Their budget is flying high with a red flag 🚩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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