2024/25 Ins & Outs Discussion

[fizoxy]

1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I think we need to know the Well Society's proposals for getting their hands on the winning ticket! Surely they have one?

I was the backup plan, but the machine also gave me the wrong ticket. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

On 12/21/2024 at 5:41 PM, Kmcalpin said:

Wunderwell is quite right to withhold the identity of our possible signing. I understand his/her reasoning and would do exactly the same. Checking out some of the obvious possible sources, I've come up with 2 names Craig Sibbald and Joe Newell. Sibbald is relatively small at 5-7 and so I'll plump for Newell. The news that SK is is looking to strengthen this position is very encouraging. We need at least 2 new signings next month.

Fuck Me , Sibbald should be a no based purely on that cunt of a haircut alone..

[FirParkCornerExile]

On 12/23/2024 at 1:49 PM, joewarkfanclub said:

I kinda agree with this.

Ive not enjoyed watching Miller the same way I enjoyed watching Turnbull, albeit Miller probably has a higher ceiling now.

I think its due to the circumstances you describe. Turnbull was the right player at the right time.

With Miller, we can see he is a generational talent and needs to play. But I dont think we have got the best out of him or the team.

Its why I hope we are able to keep him to the summer. With the players that are going to become available between now and end of season, I think he will be able to showcase his talents more fully.

 

We are wasting him with our style of play, he'd be better off going.

[Mccus28]

So out of contract players who can sign a pre contract for someone in Jan are:-

Paul Mcginn

Aston Oxborough

Shane Blaney

Ross Callachan

Dan Casey

Moses Ebiye

Harry Paton

Callum Slattery

Davor Zdravkovski

 

Who if any would you try to extend their stay?

For me, Mcginn, Casey, Ox should be kept.

Callachan has been a total waste of a wage!!!!!

 

[santheman]

15 minutes ago, Mccus28 said:

So out of contract players who can sign a pre contract for someone in Jan are:-

Paul Mcginn

Aston Oxborough

Shane Blaney

Ross Callachan

Dan Casey

Moses Ebiye

Harry Paton

Callum Slattery

Davor Zdravkovski

 

Who if any would you try to extend their stay?

For me, Mcginn, Casey, Ox should be kept.

Callachan has been a total waste of a wage!!!!!

 

Ox is signed till May 27

[Kmcalpin]

Mcginn - + 1 year option (not sure on whose side)

Ox  - signed until at least 2027

Blaney OOC don't renew.

Callachan OOC  don't renew.

Casey OOC renew on same or slightly reduced terms

Ebiye OOC don't renew

Paton OOC definitely renew

Slattery OOC ? assess next 6 months

Davor  OOC don't renew

The Ox is not an issue as San says. Of the others, I'd only really want to retain Harry Paton.

 

[Mccus28]

7 minutes ago, santheman said:

Ox is signed till May 27

You're right!!!!!!!!

I took the copy and paste from the SUN so should have checked 🤣

[FirParkCornerExile]

12 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Mcginn - + 1 year option (not sure on whose side)

Ox  - signed until at least 2027

Blaney OOC don't renew.

Callachan OOC  don't renew.

Casey OOC renew on same or slightly reduced terms

Ebiye OOC don't renew

Paton OOC definitely renew

Slattery OOC ? assess next 6 months

Davor  OOC don't renew

The Ox is not an issue as San says. Of the others, I'd only really want to retain Harry Paton.

 

Slattery has been paid enough for nothing and spent more time on his arse than anything else before his injury I wouldnt look to be keeping him. McGinn, Ox, Paton renew, the rest can all go.

[Ya Bezzer!]

1 hour ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Slattery has been paid enough for nothing and spent more time on his arse than anything else before his injury I wouldnt look to be keeping him. McGinn, Ox, Paton renew, the rest can all go.

In the 10 league matches Lennon Miller missed last season, Slattery played in 9 of them and we didn't win a single one of them.

In the 17 league matches Callum Slattery missed last season, Miller played in 16 of them and we won 6 of them.  That's out of 10 league wins last season.

I think that kind of sums up what either player brings to the table and how essential they are.

 

[texanwellfan]

I’d keep Casey 

[stv]

11 hours ago, Mccus28 said:

You're right!!!!!!!!

I took the copy and paste from the SUN so should have checked 🤣

Write out 100 times “I should never believe what I read in The Sun cause it’s all shite”

[Mad Dog]

Callaghan can go right now.

I'd offer extentions to McGinn, Casey, Ox, Ebiye and Paton.

Slattery should be given the chance to earn an extention. Davor has done well at times but I'd like to think that we can find a more effective defensive midfielder.

I'd also offer Watt a contract and see if he's willing to take a pay cut to come back. The other loans can go home.

[wellfan]

Is Maswanhise only on a short-term deal until January or was that extended and I've missed it? If not, he should be offered an 18-month deal, at least, come January. 

[wellfan]

I think we will/should offer terms to McGinn (another year), Paton (2-years), Casey (2-years), Slattery (short-term deal) and Watt (1-year). And JT, as I said above. 

[brainier]

48 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Is Maswanhise only on a short-term deal until January or was that extended and I've missed it? If not, he should be offered an 18-month deal, at least, come January. 

Summer of 2026. Extended in October.

[wellsince75]

33 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I think we will/should offer terms to McGinn (another year), Paton (2-years), Casey (2-years), Slattery (short-term deal) and Watt (1-year). And JT, as I said above. 

That sounds pretty reasonable . They are all decent footballers - the more quality we can retain the better .

[texanwellfan]

Warning!!! Happy clapper alert!!

I think SK has taken a lot of stick over his signings but for me I think we have a pretty decent squad. 
experience with O’Donnell Halliday and McGinn

Gordon and Casey pretty decent at the back with Ox in goal. All are not perfect but pretty solid door the most part

players Like Paton, Sparrow, Seddon, Nicholson added to Miller and Wilson 

TJ and Stam coming along nicely with Moses in there who has chimed In with some important goals 

loan players like Watt and Kaletta

probably as good a squad as we’ve had in some time. 

[stv]

49 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Warning!!! Happy clapper alert!!

I think SK has taken a lot of stick over his signings but for me I think we have a pretty decent squad. 
experience with O’Donnell Halliday and McGinn

Gordon and Casey pretty decent at the back with Ox in goal. All are not perfect but pretty solid door the most part

players Like Paton, Sparrow, Seddon, Nicholson added to Miller and Wilson 

TJ and Stam coming along nicely with Moses in there who has chimed In with some important goals 

loan players like Watt and Kaletta

probably as good a squad as we’ve had in some time. 

Agree with that but i just wish the manager had more confidence in his squad to allow them to play an attacking formation more often, as in the first half yesterday. Saying that we are in a more than satisfactory position in the league playing the way we have been. 
Keep on clapping.  👏 👏 

[texanwellfan]

45 minutes ago, stv said:

Agree with that but i just wish the manager had more confidence in his squad to allow them to play an attacking formation more often, as in the first half yesterday. Saying that we are in a more than satisfactory position in the league playing the way we have been. 
Keep on clapping.  👏 👏 

Yep, I think that’s what we are all waiting on, SK to take the leap of faith. The more you look at the squad the more it appears that they are better suited to an attacking style of play. Of course we can’t just abandon defensive side of things but I’d say we should be working towards a more attacking approach to majority of games 

[couttsy]

23 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

I’d keep Casey 

Deffo. A bit surprised some would let him go, I think he's been a great signing on the whole. I'd keep McGinn, Casey & Paton. Wouldn't lose any sleep if any of the rest left. 

[Kmcalpin]

40 minutes ago, couttsy said:

Deffo. A bit surprised some would let him go, I think he's been a great signing on the whole. I'd keep McGinn, Casey & Paton. Wouldn't lose any sleep if any of the rest left. 

I think he's a bit like Bevis in that he plays well for 85 minutes, then lose concentration for the remaining 5.  There's also a strong possibility that he doesn't play well with some combination of Gordon, Balmer and Blaney. Our central defence clearly needs sorting out and although McGinn's return may help its not the complete answer.  

[wellfan]

1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said:

I think he's a bit like Bevis in that he plays well for 85 minutes, then lose concentration for the remaining 5.  There's also a strong possibility that he doesn't play well with some combination of Gordon, Balmer and Blaney. Our central defence clearly needs sorting out and although McGinn's return may help its not the complete answer.  

I think the answer lies in moving to a back 4 with 1 or 2 defensive pivot-type midfielders sitting in front of them. Perhaps a 4-2-3-1, although I doubt Kettlewell will ever move away from the 3 central defenders approach.  

[weeyin]

Casey's agression and attitude tend to distract from his lack of defending fundamentals. He was a key part of last year's defensive atrocities and, especially when starting with Blaney, is a guarantee we won't have a clean sheet.

He is an asset when we have the ball, and great at causing disruption in the opponent's box. Below average when we don't have the ball, or when he's defending in our box.

We've started to slip into our old habit of losing soft goals, and that needs to be addressed with some changes in the back 3.

[Kmcalpin]

Just now, wellfan said:

I think the answer lies in moving to a back 4 with 1 or 2 defensive pivot-type midfielders sitting in front of them. Perhaps a 4-2-3-1, although I doubt Kettlewell will ever move away from the 3 central defenders approach.  

Yes. I think too, that Ewan Wilson is more suited to a back 4, as mentioned by Cameron on P & B.

[texanwellfan]

18 minutes ago, weeyin said:

Casey's agression and attitude tend to distract from his lack of defending fundamentals. He was a key part of last year's defensive atrocities and, especially when starting with Blaney, is a guarantee we won't have a clean sheet.

He is an asset when we have the ball, and great at causing disruption in the opponent's box. Below average when we don't have the ball, or when he's defending in our box.

We've started to slip into our old habit of losing soft goals, and that needs to be addressed with some changes in the back 3.

We started the season looking much better in defence and that was 

McGinn Gordon Casey

since we haven’t been able to play that combination our defence went back to old ways, as you mentioned. 
Hopefully we can go back to this combination soon and we will find out if it was coincidence or if that is the “winning” combination.