FirParkCornerExile Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Dear Christ we've offered Mugabi another contract. What a waste of limited funds. I know it's all opinions and others will think different. My only hope he refuses and gets a better offer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Happy about McGinn but kinda blew my mind we offered Butcher terms glad they were that rank rotten he didn't sign them lol Maybe Obika was a fragment of our imagination after all or it's another oh btw he has another year to go on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: Happy about McGinn but kinda blew my mind we offered Butcher terms glad they were that rank rotten he didn't sign them lol Maybe Obika was a fragment of our imagination after all or it's another oh btw he has another year to go on his contract. I actually thought Butcher would be offered new terms tbh. Club trying to do the decent thing after the injury situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Dear Christ we've offered Mugabi another contract. What a waste of limited funds. I know it's all opinions and others will think different. My only hope he refuses and gets a better offer. If he's seen as a squad player, not first choice, and the offer reflects that, fair enough. As others have said in the past, the quality of any player willing to sit on the Motherwell bench will not be that great. Dare say a few on the under contract and made offers lists won't be here in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Dear Christ we've offered Mugabi another contract. What a waste of limited funds. I know it's all opinions and others will think different. My only hope he refuses and gets a better offer. I agree re the contract offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Glad Mcginn offered new deal but can't understand Mugabi offered new deal plus Butcher was offered one. We can't keep being nice all the time. We done that with Dunne and Tanner in the past and Obika to lesser extent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 And I wish Kelly all the best, not had greatest of seasons but been a good servant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 That's Kelly just thanked the club and fans on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Some strange decisions. If Oxborough wasn't deemed good enough to step in when Kelly was in poor form, why has he been offered a new deal? Will he be back up or No 1? Matty Connelly? Where does he stand? Will he be back up or be No 3 at his age? I really don't get why Bevis has been offered a new deal and Callum Butcher? Maybe it was to help the latter to recover from injury? Callum Slattery offered a deal to do the right thing by him? Presumably Ross Tierney won't be in SK's plans? No mention at all of the invisible man, aka Jon Obika. Overall though I'm gobsmacked at the loyalty shown to our defence after a very poor season. I assumed that was in line for a major overhaul. Was it all Liam Kelly's fault after all! Just think if Butcher and Kelly had accepted new deals - it would almost have been the exact same defence! Some answers but more questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 I have heard Obika was on way to signing new deal but tripped on way to Kettlewells office and broke both his wrists which meant he couldn't sign new deal, well he has had every other injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 Oxborough signing with us again so soon tells me he's been told he'll have a good chance of being the new number 1. Otherwise, why not wait and see what else is out there? I doubt he'd sign to be our number 2 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Some strange decisions. If Oxborough wasn't deemed good enough to step in when Kelly was in poor form, why has he been offered a new deal? Will he be back up or No 1? Matty Connelly? Where does he stand? Will he be back up or be No 3 at his age? I really don't get why Bevis has been offered a new deal and Callum Butcher? Maybe it was to help the latter to recover from injury? Callum Slattery offered a deal to do thr right thing by him? Presumably Ross Tierney won't be in SK's plans? No mention at all of the invisible man, aka Jon Obika. Overall though I'm gobsmacked at the loyalty shown to our defence after a very poor season. I assumed that was in line for a major overhaul. Was it all Liam Kelly's fault after all! Some answers but more questions! as someone mentioned on twitter we offered contracts to nearly every defender that could only muster 3 clean sheets all season. Thats a worry for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said: Some strange decisions. If Oxborough wasn't deemed good enough to step in when Kelly was in poor form, why has he been offered a new deal? Will he be back up or No 1? Matty Connelly? Where does he stand? Will he be back up or be No 3 at his age? I really don't get why Bevis has been offered a new deal and Callum Butcher? Maybe it was to help the latter to recover from injury? Callum Slattery offered a deal to do thr right thing by him? Presumably Ross Tierney won't be in SK's plans? No mention at all of the invisible man, aka Jon Obika. Overall though I'm gobsmacked at the loyalty shown to our defence after a very poor season. I assumed that was in line for a major overhaul. Was it all Liam Kelly's fault after all! Some answers but more questions! I think it's the right thing to do to offer Slattery new terms. I also did think they would offer Butcher something. If they did. As regards Ox I suppose if you are offered decent terms you'll take them - whether you are back up or not. Potentially he's not had any better offers. Butcher is leaving anyway. Mugabi is the one I'm surprised at tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, FirParkCornerExile said: as someone mentioned on twitter we offered contracts to nearly every defender that could only muster 3 clean sheets all season. Thats a worry for me. Was pretty well known to be fair that McGinn had been offered new terms - and some fans do rate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: I have heard Obika was on way to signing new deal but tripped on way to Kettlewells office and broke both his wrists which meant he couldn't sign new deal, well he has had every other injury That's a bit too close to home pal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: Was pretty well known to be fair that McGinn had been offered new terms - and some fans do rate him. i have no objection to McGinn im pleased hes signed, it its all the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: As regards Ox I suppose if you are offered decent terms you'll take them - whether you are back up or not. Potentially he's not had any better offers. His last contract hadn't even expired, so I'm not sure how many offers he'll have gotten as yet. I would have to believe that if the club had made it clear to him that they didn't fancy him as a number 1, as was evidenced by his not getting a look-in since he joined us two years ago, he'd have surely wanted to explore his options this summer. At the very least he'd likely have gotten a backup deal at a team closer to home down south. This tells me that he's possibly been told that there's a good chance he'll be our number one next season. That's the only reason I can think of why he'd sign a new deal so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: i have no objection to McGinn im pleased hes signed, it its all the rest Hopefully we'll have some new signings in the mix as well so that folk have competition for places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: Hopefully we'll have some new signings in the mix as well so that folk have competition for places. if everyone offered has resigned the big reset / rebuild wouldnt be on , SK would be happy to go again with pretty much the same squad which I find baffling. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, FirParkCornerExile said: if everyone offered has resigned the big reset / rebuild wouldnt be on , SK would be happy to go again with pretty much the same squad which I find baffling. . I would hope not tbh. Caldwell said the other day a number of offers have been made to players who don't play for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, wellgirl said: I would hope not tbh. Caldwell said the other day a number of offers have been made to players who don't play for us. yeah but these offers may be made on the basis that SK wasnt able to keep all the ones he made offers to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 So, basically, if the players who have been offered new deals decide to stay on, our squad before we sign anyone new or potentially sell anyone will be: Aston Oxborough Matty Connelly Stephen O’Donnell Bevis Mugabi Paul McGinn Dan Casey Shane Blaney Callum Slattery Sam Nicholson Andy Halliday Harry Paton Ross Tierney Davor Zdravkovksi Lennon Miller Theo Bair Moses Ebiye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Kettlewell is a fucking idiot. He's clearly not learned anything from this past season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, wellfan said: Kettlewell is a fucking idiot. He's clearly not learned anything from this past season. I wouldn't be 100% sure that the contract situation is all down to Kettlewell. It's rare in this day and age that football managers or coaches are the ones who make the sole decision on player retention, contract offers and so on. It's never really been clarified how much final say Kettlewell has on the player retention or recruitment side of things. There's a CEO involved now, and obviously a Head of Recruitment Operations. I doubt both of them will be sitting on their hands while Kettlewell goes around handing out new deals and sanctioning budget spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 29 minutes ago, wellgirl said: That's a bit too close to home pal Whoops!! Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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