Spit_It_Out Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 If you think he is slightly better than Oli Shaw then I would question if you were watching Motherwell at all last season. I think this could be the most ridiculous take I have read on here and that’s saying something lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, Dasdeid said: Awe c'mon Bair is at best a Championship player. Accept has improved but his lack of basics (ball control, heading and positional awareness) are severely lacking. He is often AWOL during a game and pops up for a penalty. For a guy his height and upper body strength should be a Joe Jordan ! Talk of £m offer is ludicrous and if we receive an offer £500k bite their hand off. IMO slightly better Oli Shaw and arrived to sit on bench That's such a flawed statement in so many ways. Bair was running riot against Rangers and made Thier expensive forwards look poor. I take it you know more than St Pauli and Sunderland. And the likeness to Shaw. Lol We got a new comedian Grizzly. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 22 hours ago, StAndrew7 said: Pessimistic? £1million for Theo Bair isn't pessimistic, it's excellent. We got half that for Moult who had two seasons of similar goal tallies. And I'm assuming you mean lesser players are going for more in the current market; who? Apologies for the tone; as I've said elsewhere, long day and I'm a bit narky. No problem mate. Sorry for my tone also. I got higher economics. Know demand supply. It's good there's more clubs in for him and no one knows exactly who is out there but watching documentary like Sunderland one shows championship throwing money at players. Suppose we all want the best price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 23 hours ago, wellgirl said: As if they are going to offer us that for Bair. No way. They'll offer us peanuts. But hopefully we won't sell him for that Let's all hope for the best price and it's good if rumour true there's more interested parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 6 Author Report Share Posted June 6 I think Bair, at his age and with his physical attributes and a willingness to learn, should be worth around the £1 million mark. At least initially. I'd be looking to bake into the deal some sell-ons and performance-related add-ons if it was me. That means any buying club is at worst getting a "punt" for £1 million, which isn't much to a bigger team in a top league, and if they see success then we get a smaller percentage of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 33 minutes ago, David said: I think Bair, at his age and with his physical attributes and a willingness to learn, should be worth around the £1 million mark. At least initially. I'd be looking to bake into the deal some sell-ons and performance-related add-ons if it was me. That means any buying club is at worst getting a "punt" for £1 million, which isn't much to a bigger team in a top league, and if they see success then we get a smaller percentage of that. 20 percent sell on, of the 1 mil "punt" could be good. If he does at all well at championship level that could net a 1 mil if he goes for 5 mil or down the line, which is not inconceivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 I rather hope we sell Bair to Blackburn - get cash and in exchange keep Gent and Vale. If we could get £700k + those 2 players it would be an excellent bit of business 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 6 Author Report Share Posted June 6 21 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: I rather hope we sell Bair to Blackburn - get cash and in exchange keep Gent and Vale. If we could get £700k + those 2 players it would be an excellent bit of business All depends if they fancy moving here permanently. Players say all the right things at the end of their loan spell, but it doesn't mean they want to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 3 hours ago, wellsince75 said: I rather hope we sell Bair to Blackburn - get cash and in exchange keep Gent and Vale. If we could get £700k + those 2 players it would be an excellent bit of business Good insight. That may be a bargaining position if players wish to stay. Not convinced by Vale yet though he looks promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 11 hours ago, wellsince75 said: I rather hope we sell Bair to Blackburn - get cash and in exchange keep Gent and Vale. If we could get £700k + those 2 players it would be an excellent bit of business Don't see that happening. Can't see them giving us that kind of fee plus two players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: Don't see that happening. Can't see them giving us that kind of fee plus two players. In the event Blackburn made a decent offer, I'd like to see Gent back on loan as part of any deal. But, as others have said, it's not necessarily that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 The problem with successful improvement of loanees is that it makes the parent club more likely to keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, weeyin said: The problem with successful improvement of loanees is that it makes the parent club more likely to keep them. Or look to sell them on for more than we can afford to pay for them (see Mika, Jutkiewicz, Ruddy...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 That's Bevis leaving. Just been announced on Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 A nice guy by all accounts. Good luck to him. I wonder where he's heded to next? Another defensive vacancy and that provides some clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Can’t say I’m disappointed at that. Hopefully rolls up at St Mirren or Dundee Utd 🤣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Possibly Dundee Utd? That was the rumour doing the rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, steelman1991 said: Can’t say I’m disappointed at that. Hopefully rolls up at St Mirren or Dundee Utd 🤣. Yeah. Would think it will be one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Heard St Mirren interested. As players leaving there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 For the best but I wish the big man wel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: For the best but I wish the big man wel He will do well with Robbo.. They were hugging last time we drew at first park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, robsterwood said: He will do well with Robbo.. They were hugging last time we drew at first park. How do you know he's going to St Mirren? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 24 minutes ago, wellgirl said: How do you know he's going to St Mirren? A mate is uncle of one of the youth players. His son was talking about it. He's also got a nephew at Patrick so can get Goss from there too sometimes. Unless I'm told it's top secret.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Disappointed Theo didn't get on for Canada v Netherlands. Hope he can get on and get a goal against France Sunday. Adding to his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Sad to see big Bevis go, I think he’ll do well wherever he ends up. maybe his time was up with us but I think he’s very underrated by a lot of our support. On his game he must be an absolute nightmare for any striker to play against, quite quick, hard, good in the air. I hope he does well. i still think our defensive issues and scapegoats this season were hard done by. Our Goalie hung them out to dry. If you are a defender and go on the park without any confidence of the man behind you it doesn’t end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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