Ya Bezzer! Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 14 minutes ago, MJC said: Zach Robinson signs. A forward who scored 3 goals in 21 appearances for Dundee last season. Mostly sub appearances and he was also playing wide rather than as a centre forward. He scored 12 goals the previous season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 13 minutes ago, MJC said: Zach Robinson signs. A forward who scored 3 goals in 21 appearances for Dundee last season. Or 6 in 25 if you include cup games. He's 21 and when in the Championship with Dundee scored more than one goal every three games. Not saying that he'll be good but you can pick your statistics to make a case either way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 16 minutes ago, MJC said: Zach Robinson signs. A forward who scored 3 goals in 21 appearances for Dundee last season. What we really need to do is sign a striker that has a great scoring record that no one else is looking at and pay them a wage no one else can compare with,easy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 19 minutes ago, MJC said: Zach Robinson signs. A forward who scored 3 goals in 21 appearances for Dundee last season. 2 more than Bair in the season before we signed him - and he played 27 games. And 2 more than van Veen scored the season before we signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 10 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Well we are a small fan owned club so what do you expected? The only reason we've hung with the big boys so long is that we should have been relegated three times and got away with it due to the absolute shit show that is Scottish football. Pretty much the whole of Scottish football is pure diddy stuff so we're always fighting against the tide just in terms of having sensible medium term goals and maintaining a standard of professionalism. Caldwell came from Shrewsbury Town who are midtable League One in England and have a similar wage bill to us. Weir told us we are spending the best part of 60 grand a week on players wages so the manager has a budget where he should be able to sign a better standard of players than Kettlewell seems to be able to bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 18 hours ago, steelboy said: Why not just sign one decent player rather than Halliday, Callachan and Sparrow who will probably contribute heehaw? Because that's not how the footballing world actually works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 26 minutes ago, steelboy said: Caldwell came from Shrewsbury Town who are midtable League One in England and have a similar wage bill to us. Weir told us we are spending the best part of 60 grand a week on players wages so the manager has a budget where he should be able to sign a better standard of players than Kettlewell seems to be able to bring in. You say this every time, but have rarely (never) been able to give a single example of better players in our price range who want to play for us. Also, there is no point in spending all our money on 1 player when we have 4 positions that need filled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Welcome Zach! Hope he has every success. Some usual pessimistic comments on here. 🥱🥱🥱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 For what it's worth, Dundee fans think we've made a good signing and can't understand why he didn't get more game time (and in his best position) under Docherty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 14 minutes ago, Richie said: For what it's worth, Dundee fans think we've made a good signing and can't understand why he didn't get more game time (and in his best position) under Docherty It wont be worth much on here mate, the usual folk will be out with their pitchforks giving OUR OWN players pelters before they have even pulled on the training gear as thats how they like to live their life. Makes you wonder why they even support Motherwell, its chronic behaviour 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 44 minutes ago, weeyin said: You say this every time, but have rarely (never) been able to give a single example of better players in our price range who want to play for us. Also, there is no point in spending all our money on 1 player when we have 4 positions that need filled. In the recent past we have signed Kelly, Gallagher, SOD, Spittal, Goss, KVV, Aldred, Hartley, Cole and others who fit the bill of having decent experience, in their prime years of 25-30 and not total crocks. If you look at Kettlewell's permanent signings through three transfer windows none of them fit that bill. Everyone knows we need a player for the centre of the defence and a midfielder to play with Miller who have some quality and experience but he's obviously not got the managerial ability to get the players in. 12 months ago we had people saying Obika, Paton, Wilkinson and Soare would be good signings for us. He's doing exactly the same shite as last season again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Happy with signing, good luck Zach, please score within 20 mins of debut or you will be written off 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Hope he does well for us. Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 7 minutes ago, steelboy said: He's doing exactly the same shite as last season again. Are you worried he's copying your approach then, he's far too sensible for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Tbh I don't think Robinson is that bad a signing and if we start the season with Bair, the Serb, Moses and Robinson that looks decent and suggests that we are hopefully switching to two up top. The problem is clearly central defence and centre mid where we seem to be spending money without getting what we need. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, weeyin said: You say this every time, but have rarely (never) been able to give a single example of better players in our price range who want to play for us. The last point in this sentence is a huge factor in my opinion. We may have the money to spend, but two factors come into play in any given transfer window. 1. Are there players available on the open market who justify that increased expenditure on a single individual? 2. Do those players even want to come to Motherwell? For instance, instead of signing four players at the wage we usually offer for a single player, let's say we actually do consider combining those four salaries to buy one player. Just for arguments sake. You'll often find that players commanding the equivalent of four players' wages at our level will attract interest from clubs higher up the hierarchy, who see that combined four-player salary as their standard, single-player salary. Consequently, they are likely to offer far more than we can. In essence, it wouldn't work. It's a very simplistic way of looking at transfer dealings. It’s easy to plan with rough estimates, but the real world is usually far more complicated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 32 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Happy with signing, good luck Zach, please score within 20 mins of debut or you will be written off 🤣🤣 Too late it's already happened. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 2 hours ago, MJC said: Zach Robinson signs. A forward who scored 3 goals in 21 appearances for Dundee last season. Refer to Bair /StJohnstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 39 minutes ago, steelboy said: Tbh I don't think Robinson is that bad a signing and if we start the season with Bair, the Serb, Moses and Robinson that looks decent and suggests that we are hopefully switching to two up top. The problem is clearly central defence and centre mid where we seem to be spending money without getting what we need. My biggest concern right now is that we have no left-sided wing/full backs in the squad, other than Wilson. I know Blaney is in the "could do a job" group there but I think he's firmly a centre back; doesn't have the pace or athleticism to play as a modern WB/FB that Ketts wants. I'd love us to get someone akin to Furlong back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 3 hours ago, MJC said: Zach Robinson signs. A forward who scored 3 goals in 21 appearances for Dundee last season. Having watched Dundee a bit, this signing is fine by me. Quoting stats certainly does not tell the full tale. He will do well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Slattery!!! Get in!!! A year with the option of a further year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Oxbourgh O’Donnell Casey Balmer McGinn Blaney Callachan Miller Paton Nicholson Bair Slattery Halliday Ebiye Sparrow Koutroumbis Ferrie/Wilson Robinson Davor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Deperately need left back and a goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 20 Author Report Share Posted June 20 27 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Slattery!!! Get in!!! A year with the option of a further year Which means if he doesn't do well this season, we can easily get rid of him in the summer. Good move by the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Slattery Paton Callachan Halliday slowest midfield in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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