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4 hours ago, MJC said:

I didn’t say that it did, I was merely making an observation that the more vocal “faithers” of the support, particularly on here tend to be the ones who don’t actually attend games. I’m not interested in the reasons they don’t or can’t go, that’s their business, but it’s a bit rich when these types get all sanctimonious and start riding about on their high horses with fans who actually were at the game.

So you want to gatekeep the gatekeepers? Sounds about par for your course

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4 hours ago, MJC said:

I didn’t say that it did, I was merely making an observation that the more vocal “faithers” of the support, particularly on here tend to be the ones who don’t actually attend games. I’m not interested in the reasons they don’t or can’t go, that’s their business, but it’s a bit rich when these types get all sanctimonious and start riding about on their high horses with fans who actually were at the game.

I've been to more games than you, travelled more miles to watch games than you (3000 this season alone) and, as a MFC TV subscriber, get to watch every second of every match home and away (and rewatch multiple times if the mood takes me).

You have literally no idea how many times I've been to Fir Park this season, or what away games I've been to this year or any other year.

So by those self-composed metrics, my opinion is much more valuable than yours and you need to get off your high horse until you've seen more matches live than me?

Or perhaps trying to measure whether someone's opinion is worth more than others is pointless BS and we're better focusing on discussing footballing matters on a football discussion board and leaving the sanctimony to the OF fans.

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5 hours ago, MJC said:

I didn’t say that it did, I was merely making an observation that the more vocal “faithers” of the support, particularly on here tend to be the ones who don’t actually attend games. I’m not interested in the reasons they don’t or can’t go, that’s their business, but it’s a bit rich when these types get all sanctimonious and start riding about on their high horses with fans who actually were at the game.

As the late Jimmy Sanderson used to say on radio Clyde super scoreboard " were you at the game caller" and never listened to any shite from those who answered no. 

Not as easy as that these days though all you need is a dodgy firestick and you can nearly be at the game from your living room and rant as much as you like with nobody to hear you....there's always a bonus 👍

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8 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

As the late Jimmy Sanderson used to say on radio Clyde super scoreboard " were you at the game caller" and never listened to any shite from those who answered no. 

Not as easy as that these days though all you need is a dodgy firestick and you can nearly be at the game from your living room and rant as much as you like with nobody to hear you....there's always a bonus 👍

Maybe someone could buy the guy who got escorted out of Fir Park at half time a dodgy firestick. 🤣

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6 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

As the late Jimmy Sanderson used to say on radio Clyde super scoreboard " were you at the game caller" and never listened to any shite from those who answered no. 

Not as easy as that these days though all you need is a dodgy firestick and you can nearly be at the game from your living room and rant as much as you like with nobody to hear you....there's always a bonus 👍

Of course you get a much better atmosphere and match day experience at the game. You do, however, often get a better view and slow motion replays on the MFC stream.

Last time I was in The John Hunter Shed I had the pleasure of craning my neck to see around the pillar every time the play came down the Mclean end.

Much more leg room on my sofa, too, and safe standing if needed.

 

 

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As far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter if you go to games or watch it on the TV.

If you support Motherwell then you're a fan the same as everyone else and entitled to your opinion and to say anything you want within reason.

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3 minutes ago, santheman said:

As far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter if you go to games or watch it on the TV.

If you support Motherwell then you're a fan the same as everyone else and entitled to your opinion and to say anything you want within reason.

Or watch from behind your hands on twitter 

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1 hour ago, weeyin said:

I've been to more games than you, travelled more miles to watch games than you (3000 this season alone) and, as a MFC TV subscriber, get to watch every second of every match home and away (and rewatch multiple times if the mood takes me).

You have literally no idea how many times I've been to Fir Park this season, or what away games I've been to this year or any other year.

So by those self-composed metrics, my opinion is much more valuable than yours and you need to get off your high horse until you've seen more matches live than me?

Or perhaps trying to measure whether someone's opinion is worth more than others is pointless BS and we're better focusing on discussing footballing matters on a football discussion board and leaving the sanctimony to the OF fans.

I know that I’ve been to more Motherwell games in person than you have in the last decade. I don’t miss home games, you live on the other side of the Atlantic, it doesn’t take a genius.

I also get the impression from your contributions on here that you are an arrogant, condescending and extremely boring individual who loves an argument. You very rarely discuss the team, the players, games themselves. Instead you seem to prefer to fire cheap, crass and annoying remarks to posters who regularly attend games. Why, only you will know, but I think it’s pathetic.

Therefore I will take no lectures from you on supporting Motherwell.

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2 hours ago, MJC said:

I know that I’ve been to more Motherwell games in person than you have in the last decade. I don’t miss home games, you live on the other side of the Atlantic, it doesn’t take a genius.

I also get the impression from your contributions on here that you are an arrogant, condescending and extremely boring individual who loves an argument. You very rarely discuss the team, the players, games themselves. Instead you seem to prefer to fire cheap, crass and annoying remarks to posters who regularly attend games. Why, only you will know, but I think it’s pathetic.

Therefore I will take no lectures from you on supporting Motherwell.

Are you Nicola sturgeon?😂

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3 hours ago, wellgirl said:

Or watch from behind your hands on twitter 

I dont use twitter but from what I've heard they're more trolls and keyboard warriors than fans.

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6 minutes ago, santheman said:

I dont use twitter but from what I've heard they're more trolls and keyboard warriors than fans.

There's a lot of genuine fans on twitter but it's been hard going this season and I think Facebook is often worse 

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3 hours ago, MJC said:

I know that I’ve been to more Motherwell games in person than you have in the last decade. I don’t miss home games, you live on the other side of the Atlantic, it doesn’t take a genius.

I also get the impression from your contributions on here that you are an arrogant, condescending and extremely boring individual who loves an argument. You very rarely discuss the team, the players, games themselves. Instead you seem to prefer to fire cheap, crass and annoying remarks to posters who regularly attend games. Why, only you will know, but I think it’s pathetic.

Therefore I will take no lectures from you on supporting Motherwell.

If you've got that impression, then it's obvious you've never spent 60 seconds in my company.

Like I said previously, we can all make up metrics to prove we are a "better fan" and it's all pointless BS.

Football has always been entertainment for me. The pre-game chat during the week, the banter with mates during the game, and the post-mortem with friends and family after the game. The results are almost incidental to the social interaction.

My opinions on here are worth exactly the same as everyone else's. The square root of hee haw. I've be around the internet too long to expect anyone to listen, never mind care, and I know for a fact I know nothing for a fact.

I see this place as a virtual pub, were fans from all over the place can gather and talk bollocks to each other over a pint, and then go home and forget about anything that was said by anyone.

It's just a game I enjoy, and I'll never take it (or here) too seriously

 

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4 hours ago, weeyin said:

If you've got that impression, then it's obvious you've never spent 60 seconds in my company.

Like I said previously, we can all make up metrics to prove we are a "better fan" and it's all pointless BS.

Football has always been entertainment for me. The pre-game chat during the week, the banter with mates during the game, and the post-mortem with friends and family after the game. The results are almost incidental to the social interaction.

My opinions on here are worth exactly the same as everyone else's. The square root of hee haw. I've be around the internet too long to expect anyone to listen, never mind care, and I know for a fact I know nothing for a fact.

I see this place as a virtual pub, were fans from all over the place can gather and talk bollocks to each other over a pint, and then go home and forget about anything that was said by anyone.

It's just a game I enjoy, and I'll never take it (or here) too seriously

 

Well said wee yin 

COYW

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17 hours ago, Wee Dougie said:

Well you can take a lecture from me, I have been going to Fir Park for the last 60+ years and have always thought my team would win, whereas you always predict a defeat, doom and gloom and the end of the world, so, put a sock it!!!!!!!!!. 

Good for you, do you want a medal?

I don’t take lectures from anyone, so you can just pipe down.

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Thoroughly enjoyed that win. I didn't have a clear view of the handball incident but when checking scores etc at half time it was considered harsh by reports on BBC even viewing the match thread over on P&B several posters suggested the same but having seen the footage back it was a penalty all day long, don't know why it took so long to arrive at that decision though.

We were probably lucky with the chalked-off equaliser as it looked more of a coming together but Anderson, Brandon and the wee banjo-looking guy from Deliverance were all quite cute with the barging into our players just as they were about to win headers.

Bair was unlucky with his acrobatic effort but Nicholsons drive was tremendous, probably well further out but it was reminiscent of Seedorf at Tynecastle.  

Theo's run and header was another excellent finish and it was great to see Casey notch another. The only moan is that Livi scored with the first effort they had on target which has happened numerous times this year but it was nice finish tbf. It wouldn't surprise me to see Nouble play for another Premiership side. 

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41 minutes ago, pretzel said:

Thoroughly enjoyed that win. I didn't have a clear view of the handball incident but when checking scores etc at half time it was considered harsh by reports on BBC even viewing the match thread over on P&B several posters suggested the same but having seen the footage back it was a penalty all day long, don't know why it took so long to arrive at that decision though.

We were probably lucky with the chalked-off equaliser as it looked more of a coming together but Anderson, Brandon and the wee banjo-looking guy from Deliverance were all quite cute with the barging into our players just as they were about to win headers.

I didn't have a good enough view at the time so couldn't comment, but yes, the TV highlights suggest that it was a penalty. The defender wasn't jumping or off balance, but his arm was out and appeared to move towards the ball.

The chalked off equaliser? It happened not far from us and we had a grandstand view. We were all shouting for a blatant foul, which it 100% was. The only issue was why the ref allowed play to go on.

Yes, Livi were quite streetwise; quite a few instances of our lads just about to make a pass when they were pushed/punched in the back and made to look really quite foolish with a misplaced effort.

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1 hour ago, pretzel said:

It wouldn't surprise me to see Nouble play for another Premiership side. 

Nouble has been wasted at Livi. He's got all the attributes to be a solid centre-forward, but Martindale has often had him playing left wing, which he also seemed to play a fair bit at Aldershot Town. I think he would easily be a 10+ goal-per-season striker in the right team. His headed goal on Saturday was decent, but it caught Kelly in no man's land.

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3 hours ago, MJC said:

Good for you, do you want a medal?

I don’t lectures from anyone, so you can just pipe down.

Reading back over your recent posts on this thread:

If someone is a long time supporter, or a "faither" in your terms, their opinion is irrelevant.

If someone is a long term supporter who can't attend often due to geography, their opinion is irrelevant.

So:

1. If someone has been to more games than you, don't give you a lecture.

2. If someone has been to fewer games than you, don't give you a lecture.

It would appear that the only opinion that matters is yours and that if any lectures are going to be given, then you are the one who will do it. In which case, may I respectfully suggest you have a talk with yourself.

PS. I'm a "faither", who attended his first game in 1967, I possess a season ticket, so go to the same number of games as you (approximately). I am annoyed when we lose, happy when we win, and these emotions generally last a few hours or so after full time, this probably means I'm unlikely to suffer an aneurysm due to something as irrelevant as a football result, can you say the same?

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I think we all need to take a deep breath.

It doesnt matter how many games someone does or doesnt go to or how many years they have supported the team.

What matters is our support of Motherwell FC.

If you give an opinion, be prepared to debate it and back it up. Because sure as shit someone will disagree.

Try not to make it personal, or take it personal (hard sometimes I know) we are after all, all on the same side.

Some folk are always negative, some folk are always positive. Thats life.

Meantime, Feed The Bair.........

 

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Well I would have thought that people would be able to read the slight tone of sarcasm in my reference to “faithers of the support” but I’ll explain anyway. 
 

By that term I’m not referring to people who have supported the club and or attended matches regularly for 40/50/60 plus years, it’s more the types who try and tell others how to support the club that I take issue with. 

For example “I can lecture you because I always think we’re gonna win and you don’t” to paraphrase a poster earlier on. Really? Come on! It doesn’t matter to me if you’ve followed the club since 1950 or since last Tuesday evening once Reporting Scotland had finished, don’t tell me how I should or shouldn’t support the club when I have put in plenty of years and invested time, effort and money supporting Motherwell FC. 
 

Obviously I respect the guys/girls who have faithfully and loyally supported the club for many, many years going back to well before my time. Good on them. 
 

In this environment, an online message forum and the same applies to social media there just seems to be this element who rather than discussing the team, the club and everything relating to it are more interested in making cheap, petty remarks to other supporters and going down the ‘one-upmanship’ route and THAT is the type I’m referring to when talking about “faithers of the support”. 

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If I ever think there are gloom and doom merchants on here, I'll just recall the guy I encountered online on Saturday night. No point in celebrating a 4-1 win, because in 66 years of supporting Motherwell, he's had one single enjoyable day - 18th May 1991.

Mind you, he also wished we were as successful as East Fife and Dunfermline, so he might have a few cards missing.

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