SteelmaninOZ Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 🏆A cup game under lights at Fir Park is the place to be should be a great an atmosphere. I think our third kit would be better suited for this game. But the arabs.will be in their white kit. COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 Friday night is our biggest game of the season so far. A big game at home under the lights with a chance to get to a cup semi final at Hampden and the additional revenue that comes with that. We cant afford to be messing about. Our best 11 in their best positions from the off. Lets get at United, put them under pressure and play on the front foot. We are a much better team when we do that. Assuming Watt cant play, Id go with the following....... Ox McGinn Gordon Casey SOD Wilson Miller Davor Vale Moses Robinson Id keep Maswanhise as an impact player from the bench. He has been more effective from there later in games than he has been from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 16 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Friday night is our biggest game of the season so far. A big game at home under the lights with a chance to get to a cup semi final at Hampden and the additional revenue that comes with that. We cant afford to be messing about. Our best 11 in their best positions from the off. Lets get at United, put them under pressure and play on the front foot. We are a much better team when we do that. Assuming Watt cant play, Id go with the following....... Ox McGinn Gordon Casey SOD Wilson Miller Davor Vale Moses Robinson Id keep Maswanhise as an impact player from the bench. He has been more effective from there later in games than he has been from the start. Tavares for Robinson would be my choice. The latter has done nothing to keep his place and the former deserves a chance to impress on the wing from the start. I’d also put Vale into the hole just behind Moses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, wellfan said: Tavares for Robinson would be my choice. The latter has done nothing to keep his place and the former deserves a chance to impress on the wing from the start. I’d also put Vale into the hole just behind Moses. Id forgotten about Tavares. I need to get myself a squad list so I dont forget everyone we have signed! Of course SK will stick with Robinson thru the middle and doesnt seem minded to drop any of his "leadership group" which I presume is why Halliday keeps getting picked. So it will probably be same again with some minor tweaks up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 If he plays Miller out of position again it should be a sackable offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, wellfan said: I’d also put Vale into the hole just behind Moses. FFS, haven't stopped laughing since i read that 🤭😂😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 20 minutes ago, stv said: FFS, haven't stopped laughing since i read that 🤭😂😂 Would you have preferred if I suggested that Vale should play in the space created by Moses?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 41 minutes ago, steelboy said: If he plays Miller out of position again it should be a sackable offence. If Kettlewell does continue to do so, which is ridiculous given the other options we now have, he’s single-handedly doing his best to stifle Miller’s development in his best position and potentially impact his financial value to the club. It’s nothing other than idiotic, but I bet he thinks he’s being clever in continuing to try this crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Id forgotten about Tavares. I need to get myself a squad list so I dont forget everyone we have signed! Of course SK will stick with Robinson thru the middle and doesnt seem minded to drop any of his "leadership group" which I presume is why Halliday keeps getting picked. So it will probably be same again with some minor tweaks up top. i've not been his biggest fan but Halliday is getting picked just now because he is playing well. The one that needs binned is Robinson with Vale, Ebiye and Tavares starting on Friday. With Davor missing out. Allowing Miller to play in his best position. All three of those substitutes were the reason we nearly grabbed a point yesterday. Vale driving forward made a huge difference. But I fear Kettlewell will again start Robinson despite him being terrible anywhere near goal. Might be a confidence thing but we cannot wait forever on him finding the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, dennyc said: i've not been his biggest fan but Halliday is getting picked just now because he is playing well. The one that needs binned is Robinson with Vale, Ebiye and Tavares starting on Friday. With Davor missing out. Allowing Miller to play in his best position. All three of those substitutes were the reason we nearly grabbed a point yesterday. Vale driving forward made a huge difference. But I fear Kettlewell will again start Robinson despite him being terrible anywhere near goal. Might be a confidence thing but we cannot wait forever on him finding the net. I think Kettlewell has got this well Bair came good so I am just going to stick with Robinson until he does the same it's beginning to boil ma piss a bit also Miller out of position isn't working either it's an utter waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, dennyc said: i've not been his biggest fan but Halliday is getting picked just now because he is playing well. The one that needs binned is Robinson with Vale, Ebiye and Tavares starting on Friday. With Davor missing out. Allowing Miller to play in his best position. All three of those substitutes were the reason we nearly grabbed a point yesterday. Vale driving forward made a huge difference. But I fear Kettlewell will again start Robinson despite him being terrible anywhere near goal. Might be a confidence thing but we cannot wait forever on him finding the net. Why is Davor missing? I agree that Halliday has been much better the last few weeks, but it was a low bar and him and Davor in there together just arent physical or mobile enough. No issues if its Halliday and Miller or Davor and Miller. I agree that we shouldnt persevere with Robinson as a loan striker. Either give him some support thru the middle or play him wider in a 3 (or not at all, although that would be harsh given how isolated he has been on his own). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 25 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Why is Davor missing? I agree that Halliday has been much better the last few weeks, but it was a low bar and him and Davor in there together just arent physical or mobile enough. No issues if its Halliday and Miller or Davor and Miller. I agree that we shouldnt persevere with Robinson as a loan striker. Either give him some support thru the middle or play him wider in a 3 (or not at all, although that would be harsh given how isolated he has been on his own). For me it is a close call between Halliday and Davor. And at the start of the season I would have opted for Davor given how rank Halliday was last season. But in recent weeks I think Halliday has moved ahead and his experience and ability to wind up opponents helps his case. I'm in no way getting at Davor but to include Vale given how he has improved the team when coming on as a sub, somebody needs to miss out. But Davor's energy replacing a tired Halliday after 65/70 minutes would be no bad thing. Hopefully with us ahead in the game and looking to stay that way. I think most agree that an isolated Robinson ( or any isolated striker) is not the way to approach the game on Friday. Also our set up is becoming too predictable. Aberdeen exposed that in the first half. But I am not convinced Kettlewell will see it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 2 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said: I think Kettlewell has got this well Bair came good so I am just going to stick with Robinson until he does the same it's beginning to boil ma piss a bit also Miller out of position isn't working either it's an utter waste. Robinson only managed 3 passes in 58 minutes yesterday. In Perth it was 4 passes in 45 minutes. He's beyond rank and needs dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 53 minutes ago, dennyc said: Aberdeen exposed that in the first half. But I am not convinced Kettlewell will see it that way. His tactical ineptitude has been exposed on numerous occasions during his tenure and I am yet to see him progress/develop in any way as a manager with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 4 hours ago, wellfan said: Would you have preferred if I suggested that Vale should play in the space created by Moses?! Yes if you like , but not as funny as the hole in Moses behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 3 hours ago, wellfan said: His tactical ineptitude has been exposed on numerous occasions during his tenure and I am yet to see him progress/develop in any way as a manager with us. You didn't notice when he quickly sussed out Kevin van Veen was more effective in a front 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, weeyin said: You didn't notice when he quickly sussed out Kevin van Veen was more effective in a front 2? 15 games. Zero wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 6 minutes ago, wellfan said: 15 games. Zero wins. 69 games 20 Losses, or so Wikipedia says. I can't be bothered checking. Stats can be used in lots of ways. I agree SK can stubbornly stick to his guns and it drives me crazy. But harping back to that poor run last year proves nothing other than you have nothing more recent to cast up. He is doing just fine for now. Guess that's why his contract was extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 38 minutes ago, dennyc said: But harping back to that poor run last year proves nothing other than you have nothing more recent to cast up. If you think I’ve nothing more recent to cast up, then you haven’t been reading my posts. The guy isn’t a good manager and we’ll not move forward under him. 39 minutes ago, dennyc said: Guess that's why his contract was extended. Him surviving that run of zero wins in 15 means the bar has been set very low for him, and that’s likely why a few victories have triggered a contract renewal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 18 hours ago, dennyc said: Guess that's why his contract was extended. Popping out from my hiatus to add some pedantry... It wasn't extended; it was changed to be a "rolling" contract, so it's actually protecting the Club and makes getting rid of him easier as we won't have X years cash to pay him... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 3 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said: Popping out from my hiatus to add some pedantry... It wasn't extended; it was changed to be a "rolling" contract, so it's actually protecting the Club and makes getting rid of him easier as we won't have X years cash to pay him... Exactly this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 59 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said: Popping out from my hiatus to add some pedantry... It wasn't extended; it was changed to be a "rolling" contract, so it's actually protecting the Club and makes getting rid of him easier as we won't have X years cash to pay him... Correct. This fact gets in the way of the arguments put forward by some of the Kettlewell apologists. Enjoy your hiatus. I assume fatherhood has also arrived for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAndrew7 Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 1 minute ago, wellfan said: Correct. This fact gets in the way of the arguments put forward by some of the Kettlewell apologists. Enjoy your hiatus. I assume fatherhood has also arrived for you. It has, 6 weeks old today. It feels like 6 months and simultaneously 6 weeks and 6 days and 6 hours and 6 minutes and 6 seconds 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 3 minutes ago, StAndrew7 said: It has, 6 weeks old today. It feels like 6 months and simultaneously 6 weeks and 6 days and 6 hours and 6 minutes and 6 seconds 7 weeks here. Enjoy the madness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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