Motherwell v St Mirren 28/09/2024

[weeyin]

8 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

You would then immediately get into the subjective opinion of the officials on whether they thought the ball would have crossed the line without the intervention of the handball.

In Caseys incident, Im not sure it would. It would probably have hit him in the chest and come back out.

I think that's much easier than guessing whether a handball is intentional. Especially with VAR. A bit like the tracker they can use in cricket lbw appeals to see if the ball would hit the stumps.

[wellgirl]

1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:

I thought I recalled that they added another match ban if you appealed and failed? If that’s the case I wouldn’t appeal but if it’s just a small sum of money I would appeal. I really think he tried to stop the ball with his body. I haven’t looked at any replays but my impression at the time was that he moved his hand into his body. So if he hadn’t drew his hand in the ball would have hit his body 

Yeah I think so 

[StAndrew7]

I thought that was just for certain cases; maybe serious foul play or something? I may be wrong, though. Can't be arsed going through the appeals process articles etc.

Edit: it might be at the panel's discretion if they add one or not; this article on Shinnie the other season says that: 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12860527/aberdeen-unhappy-with-graeme-shinnie-s-extended-four-match-ban

Edit of edit:

Turns out I could be arsed and aye, it is:

11.9.34 The Tribunal may make the following Determinations:

(a) that the Claim is upheld and the sanction rescinded;

(b)that the Claim is upheld but that a lesser cautionable offence occurred and that the said lesser cautionable offence be recorded and the automatic sanction for that offence be applied;

(c) that the Claim is dismissed and the original sanction is reimposed;

(d) or that the Claim is dismissed, the original sanction is reimposed and, where the terms of Paragraph 11.9.37 are applicable, that an additional match suspension shall be applied. 

11.9.37 In the event of a Claim being dismissed the Tribunal must then Determine whether:
(a) the Claim was an abuse of process or a delaying tactic for the sanction originally imposed; or (b) the Claim was frivolous, vexatious or entirely without merit. 

So basically, it's up to the Tribunal to decide if it's wasting their time or not to appeal it, then they can decide to add an extra match. It's not necessarily automatic.

[texanwellfan]

I would see it as a serious request to reconsider the red card but would they? I haven’t seen a still picture of when the ball hits Casey but if his arm/hand is in against his body then I think we have a reasonable case for not enforcing any suspension. 

[MFCL84]

On 9/29/2024 at 1:05 PM, StAndrew7 said:

This is data for the last calendar year from Wyscout on our midfield.

Only midfielder we have playing more forward passes than Davor is Miller and he also has the most defensive successes as well as the best pass completion in a number of areas.

Interesting stats. They certainly don't reflect my perception of what Davor does for the team. Those stats would suggest that Davor is the most effective midfielder that we have. His pass accuracy is better than Miller's across the board. Maybe we should be asking big money for Davor.

Davor is decent at breaking up play and retaining possession by going sideways and back. It would be interesting to understand what constitutes a forward pass in this context. 

[Stuwell2]

1 hour ago, MFCL84 said:

 

Davor is decent at breaking up play and retaining possession by going sideways and back. 

There are many midfielders who have made a lucrative career - and been lauded by many a pundit and manager - out of predominantly playing sideways and backward passes.

Many of whom wouldn’t think of getting stuck in like Davor does. 

[texanwellfan]

Are we appealing Casey red card or not? 

[grizzlyg]

2 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

Are we appealing Casey red card or not? 

Waste of time and money to be honest pal in my opinion

[MFCL84]

On 9/30/2024 at 7:41 PM, Stuwell2 said:

There are many midfielders who have made a lucrative career - and been lauded by many a pundit and manager - out of predominantly playing sideways and backward passes

Indeed and Davor does not too bad a job. However, he seems to be being asked to take more of a creative role. A large proportion of the play through midfield seems to go through Davor. This is something that, in the current setup, Halliday should be doing.

[SteelmaninOZ]

On 9/29/2024 at 2:38 AM, Chanzeypopz said:

Another huge performance from Oxbrough 💪 What a season hes having 💛

Good enough for England?