Motherwell v Rangers League Cup Semi final Nov 2/3

[wellfan]

I’ve tried to calm myself down, but I can’t. Today’s loss is on Kettlewell. He’s a clown. He’s clueless. His approach and his subs. Uggh. 

[The Sand Dancer]

Halliday, on seeking that the Rangers left back was going to May an arsenal of any clearance, burst a guy to clear the ball only to hit the net. He then apologised to the Rangers fans for not clearing the ball he should never ever claret an amber again.s

 

 

[joewarkfanclub]

26 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

he still have been better than the utter dross that came on. 2 stone over weight and blind he'd have been better.

Not the point I was making.

You said Watt would be raging.

He would have a cheek.

Just get fit.

[FirParkCornerExile]

6 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I’ve tried to calm myself down, but I can’t. Today’s loss is on Kettlewell. He’s a clown. He’s clueless. His approach and his subs. Uggh. 

Likewise , Im so angry at that today. I can take defeat , christ I'm a Motherwell fan so it a prerequisite , but that today was avoidable. Not saying wed have won but we'd have gone down fighting whereas we just meekly let that game away from us. ALL SK fault.

[FirParkCornerExile]

7 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Not the point I was making.

You said Watt would be raging.

He would have a cheek.

Just get fit.

Well he would be right to be raging cos the manager brought on players that couldnt lace his boots irrespective of what condition you may think he's in. Fuck me Robinsons brain isnt connected to his feet and as for Tavares I'm lost for words.

[Lobey_Dosser]

Can’t fault the effort but that was a really poor performance today. Whilst we are more defensively robust this season, we have a fraction of the quality we had going forward last season. The countless long balls played into Rangers hands and the long throw tactic needs to stop. 

The substitution of the front two was bizarre and killed any belief I had. Stama and JT fed off scraps but they both carried a threat and it would surely have been worthwhile moving Miller forward at 1-1 to see if he could create anything for them. Instead, we are left with the most ineffective front two I’ve seen since the dark days of Main and Sammon. Presumably Watt remains miles off it but for Moses not to get a minute to stretch his legs on such a big pitch baffles me. 

Credit to Ox and Kaleta, our two standouts. 

 

[wellup83]

Can I just add that the numbers in our stand were magnificent and in fine voice all game. If we could only get those numbers every week what a team we'd have. Block E fantastic display and atmosphere as always.

[FirParkCornerExile]

6 minutes ago, Lobey_Dosser said:

Can’t fault the effort but that was a really poor performance today. Whilst we are more defensively robust this season, we have a fraction of the quality we had going forward last season. The countless long balls played into Rangers hands and the long throw tactic needs to stop. 

The substitution of the front two was bizarre and killed any belief I had. Stama and JT fed off scraps but they both carried a threat and it would surely have been worthwhile moving Miller forward at 1-1 to see if he could create anything for them. Instead, we are left with the most ineffective front two I’ve seen since the dark days of Main and Sammon. Presumably Watt remains miles off it but for Moses not to get a minute to stretch his legs on such a big pitch baffles me. 

Credit to Ox and Kaleta, our two standouts. 

 

The only two to get pass marks but I direct 90% of my anger at SK.

[grizzlyg]

Kettlewell frustrates me at times but certainly not a clown but yes he got subs wrong today.  He needs to realise that Robinson isn't going to be the next Theo Bair.  We are sitting 4th in league so you know what it ain't all bad.

And sorry and it's just my opinion but sooner we ban flares from football the better, walking to game with flares wafting in my face and then the flares in stadium have no place at football. 

[AllyMax]

Just back in from the game, which for one reason or another became a 12 hour round trip. Gutted at the result. We didn't play particulrly well but having got our noses in front I thought we might have calmed down and maybe managed to get the ball down and hold it more. Like another poster above, I completely lost heart at the subs,  given that we needed someone who can control and hold a ball up, I was expecting Watt to come one. Even half fit, his ball control is better and his ability to collect the ball and win fouls or hold it up is well known.  Also kind expected to see Moses instead of Robinson.  In the end we went out with a whimper although, a lot of players ran themselves into the ground today.  

Crowd were great as well, apart form my phone vid of the teams coming out just became a wall of coloured smoke 🙂 Laugh of the day was a steward running down the stairs to chin a guy for vaping while the kick off delay for the smoke to clear was still going on 🙂

[joewarkfanclub]

Thought first half today was passable, albeit we werent brilliant. Limited Rangers to 2 decent chances and scored a very good goal.

Second half, I expected us to tweak things a little to get more control of the midfield, but if anything we regressed.

Not sure whether that was down to tactical failure or whether Rangers were just better then us at moving the ball.

The subs were wrong and made us weaker instead of better and thats on Ketts.

Cant fault the players for endeavour, but feels like an opportunity lost.

[Ya Bezzer!]

2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

You also need as manager who doesn't think 11 men behind a ball and boot it long will achieve anything. 

Well the manager achieved our first semi final in a while and only the 11th League Cup semi final in our existence.

We've rarely ever beaten the Old Firm in our post war history and the only two times we've beaten Rangers or Celtic in a semi final in 40 plus years was a historically bad Celtic team that didn't finished top 2 over a run of about 5 seasons, and a Rangers team managed by Pedro Caixinha that was even worse than this Rangers team.

We've over achieved getting to the semi final.  Slating the players and manager seems a bit unseemly to me.

The odds before this match were Rangers 1.3 Motherwell 8.5.

The bookies don't get it wrong very often.

 

 

[Kmcalpin]

I had very modest expectations of today's game. Biggest let down for me was the empty spaces in the Sevco support. Less cash for us. 

However we'll make £500k + from today and thats great. Also great to see us score at Hampden. Its not a stadium I enjoy visiting. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

3 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Well the manager achieved our first semi final in a while and only the 11th League Cup semi final in our existence.

We've rarely ever beaten the Old Firm in our post war history and the only two times we've beaten Rangers or Celtic in a semi final in 40 plus years was a historically bad Celtic team that didn't finished top 2 over a run of about 5 seasons, and a Rangers team managed by Pedro Caixinha that was even worse than this Rangers team.

We've over achieved getting to the semi final.  Slating the players and manager seems a bit unseemly to me.

The odds before this match were Rangers 1.3 Motherwell 8.5.

The bookies don't get it wrong very often.

 

 

My comment was in relation to todays game and SK masterplan for the game , nothing more and I stand by it. Boot long and constantly losing possession gets you one outcome and thats what we got.

[Mootherwell86]

My tuppence worth is that we were very poor all game. At some point we’re going to need to try and seize control of the midfield or our results will suffer. 

Poor substitutions killed us and left us without a focal point. 

I really like Tom Sparrow.

[Mootherwell86]

Also, can we please stop playing out for our centre halves to shell it long. Hit it long from our keeper and squeeze the game up. Basics.

[wellfan]

Hopefully today is the last meaningful game we go into with that donkey in charge.

[grizzlyg]

8 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Hopefully today is the last meaningful game we go into with that donkey in charge.

I think donkey is a bit harsh. Yes he got things wrong today but he is certainly not that bad. Our league position tells you that.  I certainly ain't a happy clapper but some of the criticism in my opinion goes OTT

[FirParkCornerExile]

1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

I think donkey is a bit harsh. Yes he got things wrong today but he is certainly not that bad. Our league position tells you that.  I certainly ain't a happy clapper but some of the criticism in my opinion goes OTT

I blame him entirely for today and am fuckin raging how utterly pathetic we were but you are correct he has money in the bank at this moment in time.

[wellfan]

13 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I think donkey is a bit harsh. Yes he got things wrong today but he is certainly not that bad. Our league position tells you that.  I certainly ain't a happy clapper but some of the criticism in my opinion goes OTT

I’d admire your optimism pal.

However, he set us up to contain them, not beat them. He replaced Stama and Maswanhise with two more donkeys. He put Casey to RWB then CF. We don’t get to many semis, and he’ll be remembered for that today, unfortunately. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

9 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I’d admire your optimism pal.

However, he set us up to contain them, not beat them. He replaced Stama and Maswanhise with two more donkeys. He put Casey to RWB then CF. We don’t get to many semis, and he’ll be remembered for that today, unfortunately. 

Concerning this game you are correct he is 100% culpable in every aspect of that utterly pathetic effort today.

[Welly Machine]

Didn't offer much going forward at all although the first half was slightly better. Can't fault Ap Stam and Maswanhise for work rate though.

Thought we were too cautious throughout.

Miller didn't have the impact we hoped and Balmer made some crazy decisions with his distribution.

Subs had very little impact.

Feel as if we have the weakest midfield in almost every game we play and that includes the games we have won.

Have to hope we somehow find the right combination.

On the positive side thought Ox had a good game and Kaleta done well before he had t go off. 

 

[wellfan]

13 minutes ago, Welly Machine said:

Feel as if we have the weakest midfield in almost every game we play and that includes the games we have won.

It’s almost like we still haven’t replaced Spittal. 

[mfc]

The second half we looked like a wee boys team that was playing on a big pitch for the first time,with the only tactic of blootering the ball as far away from our own goal as we could,to have just been happy to surrender possession and hope we got through the second half was a joke,we should have been right out looking for the second goal,as hampden would have emptied and it would have been game over if we did.weve all seen us lose to every kind of opposition over the years so were used to defeats but every so often a game comes along that's hard to take especially when we have fucked it for ourselves and today was one of those times.to have put a second half performance in like that in a cup semi when leading at half time was disgraceful.

[robsterwood]

Very disappointed. Flares at start wasted the entry to pitch and couldn't see the proper display. 

Performance was nervy. I think giving captaincy to Lennon took its toll and he couldn't solely concentrate on his game. At 1.1 game was in balance and yes poor substitutions. Midfield needed more strength as we were often out played. 

Disappointing overall and very frustrating. I expect Celtic Will win final with ease