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Dundee v Motherwell 04/12/2024


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14 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Well SK"s changes worked a treat. A lesson in how to make a poor team even worse. Looks like this poor run is gathering pace. 

We had a horrendous 10 minute spell. We had 2 players who shouldn’t be starting but for long periods in the game we looked much better than of late. We had 6 shots on target to their 4. We had 24 shots to their 9. We had 36 touches to their 20 inside the box. SK needs to figure out what the improvements were and sort out the reason why we collapsed for 10 mins 

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I will continue to support him for now, although after the Rangers cup semi, was the first time I had doubts about him. The chance to go out and have a go at a weak Rangers team was lost to his defensive leanings. On the whole his signings have been poor, although tempered by the market we are dealing in it could be a slight mitigation. However his team selections and subs are baffling at times. Continue to support him for now, but for the first time since he took over, I`m wavering. 

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3 minutes ago, Benson said:

If there is a media interview after game I really don't know what he will say to scottie,lol

It will be along the lines of Look Scott the buck stops with me I take full responsibility for it I pick the team...Same old same old.

I just don't know where we go from here tbh the confidence has gone now we are on a bad run,tried something new didn't work.

Can't blame Davor or Halliday for that on the pitch tonight it's like groundhog day from last season all over again except we have a few more points luckily.

 

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52 minutes ago, mfc said:

Its been poor management from kettlewell making miller captain,there was no need for it,he's put unnecessary pressure on the boy at a time when there's constant speculation about his future.

Is anyone else other than Oxborough guaranteed to start?

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I missed the game up to the point Stama scored. I really thought the game should have been stopped for the head knock before their second goal and it looks like half the team did too. After that, the wheels came off for 10 mins or so. I thought other than that 10 min period we looked ok. Watt and Stam looked decent together. Maybe a more 'midfieldery' midfielder than Tavares and we'd have competed better. The 10 mins after their second killed it as a contest though. I think the biggest miss at the moment is McGinn. 

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Wasnt at the game tonight and didnt see any of it, so I wont comment on the performance.

What I would say is that the starting line up seemed very strange.

Kaleta and Maswanhise have been 2 of our better performers of late so was surprised to see them dropped.

I was however pleased to see Paton and Watt included.

From reading the comments earlier it would appear we did pose more of an attacking threat which is welcome, but yet again we have capitulated at the back.

We seem to be missing McGinn and SOD more than most would give them credit for and the manager seems unable to get the right mix at the back. 

Thats 3 defeats on the bounce now with St Mirren away up next. Hardly the most appetising of fixtures right now.

Shaping up to be a pretty tough looking festive card.

By the time we get to January SK will either have turned it around or will be under significant pressure.

I hope its the former rather than the latter, but it feels a bit grim tonight.

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Worrying times ahead,every aspect of our game has gone to shit.were starting to concede goals at an alarming rate our midfield and attack has been poor all season with no apparent solution to either,are we now moving into tombola time for team selections.this from needs to be halted and quick or another long winless run is on the cards,first step needs to be moving away from the 3 back,the players dont look remotely comfortable playing it,lets get 4 at the back with the full backs actually allowed to get forward and attack.

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43 minutes ago, mfc said:

Worrying times ahead,every aspect of our game has gone to shit.were starting to concede goals at an alarming rate our midfield and attack has been poor all season with no apparent solution to either,are we now moving into tombola time for team selections.this from needs to be halted and quick or another long winless run is on the cards,first step needs to be moving away from the 3 back,the players dont look remotely comfortable playing it,lets get 4 at the back with the full backs actually allowed to get forward and attack.

I agree to a large extent. We need to move to a back 4. The problem then is who to play at left back. Ewan Wilson is fine  defensively but attacking isn't his forte. If you want that aspect built in then its Seddon who starts there. As things stand, room must be found for Miller, Paton, Manwhanise, Watt and Stama. Wilson is not  a midfielder.

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1 hour ago, mfc said:

Worrying times ahead,every aspect of our game has gone to shit.were starting to concede goals at an alarming rate our midfield and attack has been poor all season with no apparent solution to either,are we now moving into tombola time for team selections.this from needs to be halted and quick or another long winless run is on the cards,first step needs to be moving away from the 3 back,the players dont look remotely comfortable playing it,lets get 4 at the back with the full backs actually allowed to get forward 

 

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Watched highlights and goals conceded were criminal. Kettlewell though just focuses on one incident which yes play should have been stopped but that only made it 2-1.

If he was concerned about balmer I would be more worried about his pathetic attempt for 4th goal where Murray outmuscled him.

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1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

Watched highlights and goals conceded were criminal. Kettlewell though just focuses on one incident which yes play should have been stopped but that only made it 2-1.

If he was concerned about balmer I would be more worried about his pathetic attempt for 4th goal where Murray outmuscled him.

Goals 3 and 4 for them are totally pathetic actually embarrassing which seems to be a running theme for alot of goals we concede right now.

We have regressed so badly last few weeks I honestly don't see where the next point is coming from nevermind next three.

Get it we are sitting in Sixth but we are getting sucked back into the bottom six again and sucked in without a fight in us.

The football is totally rank rotten and not that rank rotten where we can just fluke wins again.

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15 hours ago, Mootherwell86 said:

2 full minutes of ranting guff about referees.  

He then proceeds to lie and say that Balmer was still off the pitch for the third goal despite him giving the ball away for it.  

Embarrassing.

Kind of thinking  balmer was struggling because thar might explain his parts in 3rd and 4 th goals...just seen better view of pen incident , its a pen every day of week , again what's var for ? 

Game should've been stopped 

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