David Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 38 minutes ago, stv said: If u watched him in the flesh when he's not got the ball near him you can see he's poor, looks bored not even Hibs wanted him. He's what I would call a "luxury" player. Don't get me wrong—he’s not a world-beater by any means, but you don’t come up through the youth ranks at Benfica and the Portugal national setup if you’re not a somewhat solid player. He also drew interest from clubs like Juventus and PSG. I could see him doing better in the lower leagues of Italy or Spain, where the game is more technical and suits players like him. Plus, he’s still fairly young and has room to grow. That said, he's definitely not a right wing back. You could tell his defensive game was lacking, even though he showed some promise going forward, even if it looked like he hasn’t played much lately. I’m not saying he should start for us. As I mentioned, I don’t think he’s the right fit, but he’s certainly not the worst player we’ve had either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FirParkCornerExile Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 On 12/10/2024 at 8:01 AM, David said: Tavares is definitely a winger, and it's easy to see that he has something about him. He played regularly for Benfica B and was frequently called up to various youth teams for Portugal. There's clearly some talent and pedigree there, especially considering he's still only 23. That said, I think he might be more of a luxury player and not necessarily a perfect fit for the Scottish game. I can imagine him having a solid career in places like Italy, Spain, or Portugal—though probably not at the very top level in those countries. I'm not of the belief that he's a particularly good fit for us though. He aint no luxury in anybodys footballing world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said: He aint no luxury in anybodys footballing world. Having spoken to him last night he is a genuinely nice guy but I agree hasn't done much in a well jersey. Kettlewell needs to take Blame also for thinking he is a RWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 4 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said: He aint no luxury in anybodys footballing world. Sure thing. 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Kettlewell needs to take Blame also for thinking he is a RWB I very much doubt Kettlewell think Tavares is a right wing back. He's obviously played him there due to lack of options at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 2 hours ago, David said: Sure thing. I very much doubt Kettlewell think Tavares is a right wing back. He's obviously played him there due to lack of options at the time. Makes you wonder why koutrombis not given a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Makes you wonder why koutrombis not given a chance. Id guess he is either still broken, just not very good or has some sort of personal issue we dont want to go public on. There's no way you play Tavares at RWB if Koutroumbis is fit and available for selection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 7 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Makes you wonder why koutrombis not given a chance. This is something that I can't understand. Has he been mentioned as being injured or unavailable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 1 minute ago, joewarkfanclub said: Id guess he is either still broken, just not very good or has some sort of personal issue we dont want to go public on. There's no way you play Tavares at RWB if Koutroumbis is fit and available for selection. Correct joe but why is koutroumbis picking up wages. ?? Surely dead money we cant afford to waste ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 10 hours ago, smiddy said: Correct joe but why is koutroumbis picking up wages. ?? Surely dead money we cant afford to waste ? He has a contract we gave him. If he isnt very good Id expect to see him moved on in January. If he is still injured or has some sort of personal problem, we will look after him. Its what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mothman Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 On Johnny K, going from what Frail is saying here - just sounds like he hasn't managed to get enough match practice in since the injury in pre-season to be considered. Signed a 2-year contract in the summer so hope we see him playing at some stage. Marvin Kaleta was obviously loaned in because of JK injury and has done quite well. I imagine the original plan was to run with 2 right-back options in SO'D and JK. The club must have seen some potential in him, otherwise could have easily picked up another RB from this side of planet earth! Here's an interview with him from the other week - https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/motherwell-star-johnny-koutroumbis-opens-34221744 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 Frail was saying Kouttroumbis has recovered fitness after his injury, but is not match sharp. In the old days he'd get a few games in the reserves to help with that. These days, we need competitive bounce games for players to get match fit. However, because of the busy December fixture schedule we can't play any bounce games, so the options for Johnny K to get match fit will be limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 Looking at what Johnny K has went through puts everything into perspective. Hopefully see him soon in 1st team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted December 13 Author Report Share Posted December 13 well said Sam. good that you’re doing 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 22 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: well said Sam. good that you’re doing 👍 Spoke to him on Tuesday night and such a nice guy, was saying was good seeing him back and he was so grateful. Think he could be key player once fully fit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 5 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Spoke to him on Tuesday night and such a nice guy, was saying was good seeing him back and he was so grateful. Think he could be key player once fully fit he's certainly a decent player - personal view is we need a good balance of hard working type s(which we have lots of) together with a few who can actually play football. Guys like Nicholson, Miller, Slattery, Watt all have decent skill - I'd like to see a team with all of them fit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 At least Kettlewell won’t physically be in the dugout today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Kaleta, Paton and Tawanda start. Nicholson on the bench again, hopefully features at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 4 minutes ago, MJC said: Kaleta, Paton and Tawanda start. Nicholson on the bench again, hopefully features at some point. Whats the full team MJC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Happy with that line up, good seeing Kaleta back and plenty of options on the bench. COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 SOD, Sparrow and Nicholson all on the bench. A good time to have some of our walking wounded come back into contention, as we'll be needing to rotate a few over Dec/Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 9 minutes ago, smiddy said: Whats the full team MJC https://x.com/motherwellfc/status/1867928780771299731?s=46&t=wehikD-exiutCByWu64YEQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Pretty much picks itself really. Glad to see kaleta in instead of Tavares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 1-0 🙌 Stama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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