SteelmaninOZ Posted Sunday at 04:35 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:35 PM On that artificial turf we might ….win of course 0-2 away win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted Sunday at 04:47 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:47 PM 11 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said: On that artificial turf we might ….win of course 0-2 away win Still giddy from today’s game? 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted Sunday at 04:48 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:48 PM 1-0 defeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted Sunday at 04:51 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:51 PM Take a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted Sunday at 05:00 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:00 PM Kilmarnock's home record has been pretty good....until today. 1 defeat in 8 I think it was. A win would open up a nice wee gap again between us and Kilmarnock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted Sunday at 06:41 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:41 PM 1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said: Kilmarnock's home record has been pretty good....until today. 1 defeat in 8 I think it was. A win would open up a nice wee gap again between us and Kilmarnock. And put us within a point of Dundee utd if Celtic beat them. So probably not happening 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM This is one game I wont give them pelters for hoofball. That pitch is a fuckin lottery and I'd take a point right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:30 PM People over estimate the affect of the astro. Managers and player love using it as an excuse after they've shat the bed. In reality Killie's home form is absolutely nothing spectacular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted Sunday at 08:38 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:38 PM Tempting fate but I hate almost every member of this Kilmarnock team and would love it if they got dragged into a relegation battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy Posted Sunday at 08:43 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:43 PM 4 minutes ago, Yassin said: Tempting fate but I hate almost every member of this Kilmarnock team and would love it if they got dragged into a relegation battle. No need to apologise. I hate their manager too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM A 1-0 win with danny Armstrong scoring injury time own goal would just be magic!! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Another 3-4-3 (in attack) and 5-4-1 (in defence) masterclass - or whatever it was today - where we have 30-40% possession and win again and keep another clean sheet? Probably not. McInness is much more streetwise than Thelin. He’ll have Killie better prepared to counter our tactics and press. That said, it’ll be interesting to see if Kettlewell reverts to type or not for this match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted Sunday at 09:25 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:25 PM 54 minutes ago, Cameron_Mcd said: People over estimate the affect of the astro. Managers and player love using it as an excuse after they've shat the bed. In reality Killie's home form is absolutely nothing spectacular I dont think they do. Kilmarnock have only lost 15 of their last 69 matches at Rugby Park (22%). Of their last 75 away games they've lost 40 (54%). Their pitch does give them an advantage, its a shite surface that they are used to. You also compare how often Kilmarnock have beaten both Rangers and Celtic at Rugby Park on the artificial surface and compare the same record every other club has against the OF at home and Kilmarnock are out front. 5 times versus Rangers since 2019 and 4 times versus Celtic since 2019 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted Sunday at 10:01 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:01 PM 29 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: I dont think they do. Kilmarnock have only lost 15 of their last 69 matches at Rugby Park (22%). Of their last 75 away games they've lost 40 (54%). Their pitch does give them an advantage, its a shite surface that they are used to. You also compare how often Kilmarnock have beaten both Rangers and Celtic at Rugby Park on the artificial surface and compare the same record every other club has against the OF at home and Kilmarnock are out front. 5 times versus Rangers since 2019 and 4 times versus Celtic since 2019 . Is that not pretty normal for a home/away loss ratio. The record Vs the OF, think it's simply that McIness and Clarke knew how to set up Vs them. I don't think it has much to do with the pitch, for example Accies never really had a decent record Vs either of them at NDP as far as I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:54 AM Another derby for me. Would be lovely to get 3 points and try and gain ground on Aberdeen and United. But not losing and stopping Killie from making any inroads into the gap between us would be an acceptable return. Not sure any of the injured players will be risked on the plastic, so could be a few selection issues again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM 3 hours ago, Cameron_Mcd said: Is that not pretty normal for a home/away loss ratio. The record Vs the OF, think it's simply that McIness and Clarke knew how to set up Vs them. I don't think it has much to do with the pitch, for example Accies never really had a decent record Vs either of them at NDP as far as I can remember. Not when you look at other clubs, Kilmarnock are disproportionate , its not huge but their pitch definitely gives them an edge. Big difference between Accies and Kilmarnock. Accies will rarely have the standard of player that Kilmarnock have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron_Mcd Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM 32 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: Not when you look at other clubs, Kilmarnock are disproportionate , its not huge but their pitch definitely gives them an edge. Big difference between Accies and Kilmarnock. Accies will rarely have the standard of player that Kilmarnock have. https://x.com/pieandbov/status/1873706979123773924?t=kfHI3MQRYYVZ5_IFAugyTQ&s=19 This is what I'm going off of. From there Killie's point distribution is one of the closest to 50/50 and I suspect today's result will only make it worse. As for the second part, is that not my whole point? Killie have had 2 sides filled with good players but more importantly very good defenders as well as 2 very experienced managers. That's why they've gotten those results, not because of their pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 03:22 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:22 AM 6 hours ago, Cameron_Mcd said: People over estimate the affect of the astro. Managers and player love using it as an excuse after they've shat the bed. In reality Killie's home form is absolutely nothing spectacular We have an OK record at Killie and Livi but that doesn't mean the games won't make your eyes bleed. It's not about excuses, it's about the astro making games unwatchable even when you win. I'd struggle to think of 3 great games I have ever seen on plastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted yesterday at 08:44 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:44 AM This decade in the League it's 4 wins, 4 draws and 4 losses between Motherwell and Kilmarnock. Only once has a team scored more than twice (Kilmarnock put 4 past us in March 21) and there has only been 5 goals in the last 3 matches. Everything points to this being as tight as you can get. These matches usually go to the home team though. We've not won at Rugby Park since 2021 though where our record is 1-1-3, while at Fir Park we have a decent record of 3-3-1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted yesterday at 10:18 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:18 AM Not got a lot of confidence in us getting a result here, kind of agree with those saying the surface favours Killie although I’m sure we will have been training on astro more lately due to the weather so players might be less affected by it. My main thought is that similar to the last game at FP, McInnes will set them up defensively and we will just lump long high ball’s at them as our passing is poor to say the least. Also I’d like to see our distribution being quicker, in a forward direction and for players to look to the left rather than constantly turning to the right hand side all the time. The amount of times Wilson was standing in acres of space yesterday only to be constantly ignored was ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 10:25 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:25 AM Killie were due to replace their plastic shite with grass for the 2025/26 season, but that’s been delayed until the 2026/27 season, meaning another 18 months of shite at Rugby Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 10:45 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:45 AM 18 minutes ago, wellfan said: Killie were due to replace their plastic shite with grass for the 2025/26 season, but that’s been delayed until the 2026/27 season, meaning another 18 months of shite at Rugby Park. I heard that as well. But didnt the league vote to ban plastic from the top flight from the end of this season? There were some Falkirk fans losing their shit over it at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 10:49 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:49 AM We are certainly set up to let other teams have the ball and play them on the break. McInnes did deal with that effectively at Fir Park by not playing into that tactic which made it really difficult for us. But will he be able to get away with the same thing at home when they have just lost to Ross County? Be interesting to see their fans reaction if he does. Hoping Paton is fit again and we dont need to see Davor and Halliday together again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted yesterday at 11:14 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:14 AM Is Vassell injured? pretty sure he went off the other day. Alot of Killie's gameplane in the past few games was just to launch the ball at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted yesterday at 11:30 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:30 AM 15 minutes ago, Richie said: Is Vassell injured? pretty sure he went off the other day. Alot of Killie's gameplane in the past few games was just to launch the ball at him. He was for their last game but I don't know if it's a longer term injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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