FirParkCornerExile Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 On 1/8/2025 at 11:52 PM, mfc said: Exactly you dont need the majority of possession to affect how the game pans out but what the actual plan is when we have the ball is anybody's guess.its been hoof ball since the start of the season so why have we ended up with a mish mash of everything but a target man,hitting long balls up to the forwards we have is never going to work,we then don't have any energy or pace in midfield to squeeze the game up when we do hit it long.i don't expect to be entertained with silky football and 3 and 4 goals every week but at the same time I don't want to be bored rigid to the point where it feels like going and watching us is a chore.tonight is a game I normally would have went too but after being at tynecastle I gladly gave it a miss. 100% correct, to listen to some on here you'd think we were asking Motherwell to play like a top European team. How the fuck folk can sit and watch the ball being booted long and high for 90 mins and losing possession 99 times out a hundred and think that's trying to play footbal is beyond me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 I’m very much in the keep SK camp but you are right. We should be able to control and pass and keep possession. For me that’s a basic football skill and if you can’t do that you shouldn’t be called a professional.  I’m also of the opinion that the first thing we should be looking at is a ball in behind the opposition defence but if it’s not at least 60/40 in our favour then don’t try it, find the easy 100% pass option. Too many times, under no pressure, we try the long ball when it’s not the best option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, texanwellfan said: I’m very much in the keep SK camp but you are right. We should be able to control and pass and keep possession. For me that’s a basic football skill and if you can’t do that you shouldn’t be called a professional.  I’m also of the opinion that the first thing we should be looking at is a ball in behind the opposition defence but if it’s not at least 60/40 in our favour then don’t try it, find the easy 100% pass option. Too many times, under no pressure, we try the long ball when it’s not the best option. Exactly this and not asking for SKs head or total football . the team are tired and I understand that with injuries and amount of games - to add to that though when you’ve only got 30% possession,  play 70% less passes with a lower accuracy than your opponent then you will expend more energy . in part it’s our own making,  why shouldn’t we have equal possession or passes against the majority of clubs .  For me it’s the obvious free area to work on .  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, texanwellfan said: We should be able to control and pass and keep possession. I fully get that and we're not good at it. However, in order to retain possession , we have to win it in the first place and thats not something we're good at. Our midfield is simply too lightweight and thats true of our strikers to a lesser extent. I have no problem whatsoever in allowing the opposition to have possession so long as we close them down (which we don't) and force them into into passing sideways or backwards. In terms of retaining possession I used to love watching David Turnbull. Many opponents found that the only way to rob him was to hack, elbow, or outright assault him. He was physically strong enough to withstand 50/50 and even 40/60 challnges and still retain possession. Lennon Miller is improving in that regard but has a way to go yet. Its not nice to see, but of late we've seen a lot more nasty challenges on him as some opponents become frustrated, or just downright cynical, when they fail to beat him in a fair 50/50 tackle. Davor, although game is simply too easily battered and buffeted. Andy Halliday is too, although he's risen a bit in my estimation of late. If Paul McGinn can return to defence, along with Steve Seddon, and we can get Lennon Miller and Harry Paton fit; and bring in a big nasty defensive midfielder then our possession stats will rise. A big target man would also help when we decide to play hoofball. All thats a huge if.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Wellfan mentioned above that Killie have been allowed to postpone ripping up their plastic and putting down real grass at the end of this season. Anyone know why this has been permitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Maybe something to do with the strong likelihood of Falkirk being promoted, as they also have a plastic pitch? Apart from that Killie have other priorities to spend their cash on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 9 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said: 100% correct, to listen to some on here you'd think we were asking Motherwell to play like a top European team. How the fuck folk can sit and watch the ball being booted long and high for 90 mins and losing possession 99 times out a hundred and think that's trying to play footbal is beyond me. It seems folk need something else to complain about if we ain't losing We are / have been missing Nicholson, Slattery , Paton, Vale, Miller , that's just off the top of my head and arguably some of our more " technical" players. Still managed to be 3 pts off third...not too shabby, time to judge is when these players are all fit and available. Also someone mentioned how Dundee played better stuff, they do have a higher budget and are below us in League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Maybe something to do with the strong likelihood of Falkirk being promoted, as they also have a plastic pitch? Apart from that Killie have other priorities to spend their cash on. Hadn't thought of that aspect. Imagine if they were denied promotion to the top division again (as when we escaped relegation) because their ground was not compliant. Allowing plastic pitches in the pro game is just one of the many issues which show the amateurish nature of our footballing authorities. I'm sure many English clubs in tiers three and four could make a financial case for plastic but the English FA seems to think (rightly, in my opinion) that it is beyond the pale. I often wonder who's pulling the strings on this issue up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said: Hadn't thought of that aspect. Imagine if they were denied promotion to the top division again (as when we escaped relegation) because their ground was not compliant. Allowing plastic pitches in the pro game is just one of the many issues which show the amateurish nature of our footballing authorities. I'm sure many English clubs in tiers three and four could make a financial case for plastic but the English FA seems to think (rightly, in my opinion) that it is beyond the pale. I often wonder who's pulling the strings on this issue up here. It certainly won't be the SFA or the SPFL pulling the strings, they are just talking shops , quite happy to take all the freebies and trips abroad, but will do nothing to actually improve the game for the better in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Mair gets his debut in goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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