stv Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 49 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: I don’t understand SK’s reluctance to give it a go. St Johnstone, cup game, we should be attacking them right from the start. Now where have I heard that before. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Three words describe Motherwell this season, Sugar or Shite, not consistently bad or good for any sustained period. Considering the injuries weve had so far, SK has never had the luxury of a full squad to select from, but as we are only 6 points off 3rd place, 4 clear of 7th, 16 clear of the relegation spot, 8 clear of the playoff place we have done ok so far. A bit more consistency, a few weeks of just sugar and this could be a very good season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, SteelmaninOZ said: The gaffer says his usual Anybody else see through this he says players are tired n havent had a day off and were in all through xmas n new year ??? they were in copenhagen for a party weekend , ah a forgot they were all out running first thing every morn ( except halliday openly admitted to not being inn till 4 in the morn ) i smell SK 💩💩💩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Highlight from our game on Sportscene. Neil McCann watching Sam Sparrow running down the pitch. 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, Spiderpig said: Three words describe Motherwell this season, Sugar or Shite, not consistently bad or good for any sustained period. Considering the injuries weve had so far, SK has never had the luxury of a full squad to select from, but as we are only 6 points off 3rd place, 4 clear of 7th, 16 clear of the relegation spot, 8 clear of the playoff place we have done ok so far. A bit more consistency, a few weeks of just sugar and this could be a very good season. no denying our league position overall is strong for this point of the season , whether we maintain is for me less obvious . some of the injuries I feel we could have avoided or foreseen . Nicholson , Callaghan , Paton , McGinn all predicable and Slattery was known. I feel we are delicately balanced . A few wins and yes we may stay top 4-6 equally we’re only 6 points ahead of 10th position . Our gap against many has reduced - hibs are a perfect example . i would expect hibs to pass us before long, hearts may also . suspect we’ll fight out out with likes of Dundee, StMirren and Killie for 6-9th . Overall our depth and quality is more akin to their level than chasing European football . id love to be wrong though . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainier Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I hope the club ask questions about the lines drawn for the first goal. They merited a burst of laughter from the Sportscene pundits. VAR isn't the problem in this case, it's the people operating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Just now, brainier said: VAR isn't the problem in this case, it's the people operating it. The technology has rarely ever been the problem, it’s almost always been the idiots tasked with using it. For example, a surefire way to make a dangerous driver more dangerous is to give them a faster car. The answer surely lies in investing in improving the drivers instead of spending that money on giving them faster toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I genuinely cannot believe we are still persevering with Stephen O'Donnell, people keep comparing him to Paul McGinn but one is consistent and the other an absolute abomination 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 42 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: I genuinely cannot believe we are still persevering with Stephen O'Donnell, people keep comparing him to Paul McGinn but one is consistent and the other an absolute abomination Aye he should have been gone at the end of last season.for an experienced player that's played international football,he doesn't half make a lot of stupid mistakes,what he did yesterday was idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 16 hours ago, texanwellfan said: Before I say the following, I am in complete agreement that SK needs to change his tactics and move away from from the negative approach, however, our keeper had zero saves today, so other than us gifting Hibs 3 goals with some horrendous individual errors we handled them Pretty well. Therein lies the issue, if you have defenders prone to catastrophic individual Errors you can’t rely on a defensive approach to work. Based on our record it would appear that, for the most part, we need to score at least 2 goals to win any game so we really should be attacking minded. Our best midfield players are likely to put in good performances in an attacking formation. There have actually been a small number of games where we have created lots of chances and looked like a decent team so I don’t understand SK’s reluctance to give it a go. St Johnstone, cup game, we should be attacking them right from the start. This is where Im at. Unfortunately, up until this point, we havent had enough fit midfielders to successfully play more attacking football, or change from 5 at the back to a 4. With the signing of Andrews and with Slattery, Nicholson and Paton all coming back, I would expect to see a move towards more of a passing game. The first half yesterday was generally fine out of possession, other than the 2 absolute abherrations from Halliday and Wilson, but in possession we were brutal. Zero shots at goal in 45 minutes is horrific. Second half was much better once Slattery came on. He, Andrews, Vale and TJ all have that little bit more quality about them. I actually feel sorry for Ewan Wilson. He has needed rested for a few weeks now, but the injury to Seddon has cost him that opportunity. That said, his positioning for the first goal and decision making for the second were very poor. SOD has also looked well off it since his injury and his positioning for the corner leading to the penalty was criminal. Pretty disappointing as he had started this season pretty well. SK has some big decisions to make for the Cup game. We are back to where we were after the Hibs game at Fir Park where things looked very bleak. He managed to turn that around with a couple of good performances and wins and he needs to do the same again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I don't expect us to play any different even if we have all our midfielders fit,we have played hoof ball with miller in the team this season and he's our best on the ball.andrews looks like he will be a good addition,he wants to get on the ball and make forward passes,slattery is good on the ball and is an upgrade on the likes of davor,it's a shame that miller is injured cause that would be the makings of a good midfield at this level.we need to start playing through the midfield a lot more,with guys like TJ and vale in the team there's decent pace and movement there if we can provide them with the right service.i would like to see us switch to a back 4 as none of our full backs look comfortable at the minute in a wing back role,the amount of space and time there caught out of position is a real issue for us,let's keep it tight and not ask them to do anything other than defending,having a functioning midfield that gets on the ball and keep it and make the right forward passes will take any burden off the full backs having to offer much in an attacking sense.next couple of games will really make our season,we will either have our tails up or be on a right downer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, mfc said: I don't expect us to play any different even if we have all our midfielders fit,we have played hoof ball with miller in the team this season and he's our best on the ball.andrews looks like he will be a good addition,he wants to get on the ball and make forward passes,slattery is good on the ball and is an upgrade on the likes of davor,it's a shame that miller is injured cause that would be the makings of a good midfield at this level.we need to start playing through the midfield a lot more,with guys like TJ and vale in the team there's decent pace and movement there if we can provide them with the right service.i would like to see us switch to a back 4 as none of our full backs look comfortable at the minute in a wing back role,the amount of space and time there caught out of position is a real issue for us,let's keep it tight and not ask them to do anything other than defending,having a functioning midfield that gets on the ball and keep it and make the right forward passes will take any burden off the full backs having to offer much in an attacking sense.next couple of games will really make our season,we will either have our tails up or be on a right downer. Why wouldnt you expect things to change when better players become available? SK hasnt always been anti-football. Its just the way things have gone this season. Last season we went to Ibrox with Slattery, Paton, Miller and Spittal and played some of the best football Ive seen from us in years. Miller is obviously injured and likely to be sold on soon, but a midfield of Andrews, Slattery, Paton and Nicholson could be decent. In that company Halliday would probably show up better as well. Obviously not going to happen in time for Saturday and things look pretty bleak right now, but the darkest sky is always before the dawn! 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Have calmed down a bit. Injuries obviously not helped and full spine of team was missing. For me it's the style of football and Kettlewell is not learning anything. We are easy to play against and no plan b. Maybe with players coming back things can improve, certainly hope so. I am not even in the mood for telling jokes.....so hey!!....every cloud 🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Don't think it's just injuries its sticking with guys who are out of form or should be rested. If I was the manager I'd tell Wilson he's out the team for the next few weeks as I'm sorry but his performance was one of the worst I've seen in a fullback since straker playing for us yesterday. I'd said within 10 minutes of play I'd take him off the now. Sheer basics not being done for his position. Tactically what was our gameplay against hibs? It seems our game plan was in football manager terms sit with a deep line and play for set pieces. Are hibs really that much better than us that we can't have a go or try to impose ourselves a little. Slatterys free kick was our only positive highlight in 90 minutes we were dreadful. Also I would love to hear Kettlewell on why he went with Jack Vale over Maswanhise as he's been our best attacking option all season and when we play him up top he has a bit of skill and can get a shot off. Stephen odonnel sold the Jersey within 10 minutes of us getting a way back in the game. I mean utterly pathetic from a player of his experience. Yesterday can be summed up as dreadful and every player on that pitch should hang there head in shame for how they've performed since the turn of the year. I'm not scapegoating just pointing out how absolutely awful we were and the negative tactics don't help matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 Here he is. That’s a well taken goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Finally watched highlights last night. Kettlewell tactics and team selection frustrates me but there is nothing he can do about those 3 goals. The Halliday/Wilson double act for first 2 goals was criminal and I have no idea what SOD was thinking about for the penalty, he knew it the minute the ref awarded the penalty. We need to cut out the daft individual errors. COYW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 5 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Finally watched highlights last night. Kettlewell tactics and team selection frustrates me but there is nothing he can do about those 3 goals. The Halliday/Wilson double act for first 2 goals was criminal and I have no idea what SOD was thinking about for the penalty, he knew it the minute the ref awarded the penalty. We need to cut out the daft individual errors. COYW I'd cut out the daft individuals that are making them...particularly the ones that are repeat offenders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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