SteelmaninOZ Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Another road trip after the tears over Leith We have to have some luck or something. Hate to sound like MJC but cup game against this mob we were poor, and it will be much of the same for this game. SK yer coat is on a shoogely peg. COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 They will have the ball. What they do with it will decide who wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Hopefully we have a decent squad to pick from. Not sure what formation we should play but I’d pick the best (least worst) to start and a formation that suits them best. Goalie , Kaletta, Gordon Casey Blaney Slattery Andrews Sparrow Nicholson Maswanhise Watt. I'm assuming Ox Seddon and Stam not available and Vale suspended sorry! wrong thread meant for Scottish cup thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Cant even contemplate this game until the cup game is out of the way. That has to be the priority right now. With the larger than normal away support the manager surely needs to win that one. How many players we have left standing at the end of it will determine whats possible the following week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 If anyone is looking for parking on Saturday try the West Mains Avenue area south west of B & Q. 10 minutes walk from the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 I’d gladly take a defeat in this one in favour of a win this Saturday in the Cup if I was offered a choice. The Cup game is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Given how tight the league is, 3 points is more important. We could win in cup and then draw celtic at parkhead. Best just to take each game as it comes. Not as if us throwing the cup game guarantees a league win anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Saturday at 08:41 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:41 PM St Johnstone 2-0 Motherwell Also: Kettlewell to be booked. SODs to trip over his own arse. Back five. Casey to batter Frail. Zero shots on target. Halliday in midfield on his own. 35% possession. 150 Well fans to make the journey. Basically, it’s looking like Simo may Finnish off Kettlewell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Saturday at 09:04 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:04 PM We need a response but been saying same thing after hearts game...hibs game.... A win opens up 19pt gap on saints and means we just need to avoid finishing 11th....easy peasy Jeez!! How strong is the wine I am drinking 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM We'll be lucky to take 500 fans next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Saturday at 09:13 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:13 PM 6 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: We need a response but been saying same thing after hearts game...hibs game.... A win opens up 19pt gap on saints and means we just need to avoid finishing 11th....easy peasy Jeez!! How strong is the wine I am drinking 🤣 I don't think we are going to be in the play off position. Someone said earlier that we only need another 6 points for safety. It is tough but it's the same as last year. When you are on a downwards trajectory you can't catch a break - I'm sure we will pull ourselves out of it. I'm on the wine too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Saturday at 10:32 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:32 PM 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: I don't think we are going to be in the play off position. Someone said earlier that we only need another 6 points for safety. The way things are going, we could easily be in the play off position. There doesn't seem to be much prospect of an improvement in the next couple of games. Next week alone won't determine 12th and 11th spots but it could be season defining for us. If we lose again next Saturday, SK's position with the fans will be irrecoverable. I'm surprised just how quickly many fans have really turned against him , although I shouldn't be, given given recent results and performances. Today was the first tentative sign I've seen that the players are losing faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Saturday at 10:46 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:46 PM 4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: The way things are going, we could easily be in the play off position. There doesn't seem to be much prospect of an improvement in the next couple of games. Next week alone won't determine 12th and 11th spots but it could be season defining for us. If we lose again next Saturday, SK's position with the fans will be irrecoverable. I'm surprised just how quickly many fans have really turned against him , although I shouldn't be, given given recent results and performances. Today was the first tentative sign I've seen that the players are losing faith. The players should not be losing faith in my view. They are paid well to do a job and chucking it isn't good enough - it's making a fool of fans who live in this area some of who earn a tiny percentage of what they are paid. They can back Kettlewell or ship out in my view - and I'm aware of his faults. I have no time for players who are well paid for what they do deciding to throw in the towel. It's not just on him. They've looked like they don't care for the last few games - and that isn't good enough. They don't want to play for him - fine. But they should be playing for the fans who've paid to watch them I actually don't think loads of fans have turned against him -if he goes so be it but as I've said elsewhere in two years time some other manager will be on the other end of this - social media has a big part to play in this - I actually miss the days when I just watched the team and went home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted Saturday at 10:47 PM Author Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:47 PM 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: I don't think we are going to be in the play off position. Someone said earlier that we only need another 6 points for safety. It is tough but it's the same as last year. When you are on a downwards trajectory you can't catch a break - I'm sure we will pull ourselves out of it. I'm on the wine too I n deepest dark Lanarkshire can be heard 🎶Little old wine drinker me I asked the man behind the bar for the tv that takes me back to St Johnstone Perth….🤣🍷🍷🍷🎶 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Saturday at 10:59 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:59 PM 6 minutes ago, wellgirl said: The players should not be losing faith in my view. They are paid well to do a job and chucking it isn't good enough - it's making a fool of fans who live in this area some of who earn a tiny percentage of what they are paid. They can back Kettlewell or ship out in my view - and I'm aware of his faults. I have no time for players who are well paid for what they do deciding to throw in the towel. It's not just on him. They've looked like they don't care for the last few games - and that isn't good enough. They don't want to play for him - fine. But they should be playing for the fans who've paid to watch them I actually don't think loads of fans have turned against him. Players are only human and whilst they should be professional, it must be hard to give of your best if you're constantly being asked to do things for which you're not suited. I've been in the position of losing faith in a manager and believe me it's very hard, in that situation, to give 100%. In such situations I resorted to vicious compliance. The problem for players is that in such a situation the fans can blame them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Saturday at 11:02 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:02 PM 8 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Players are only human and whilst they should be professional, it must be hard to give of your best if you're constantly being asked to do things for which you're not suited. I've been in the position of losing faith in a manager and believe me it's very hard, in that situation, to give 100%. In such situations I resorted to vicious compliance. The problem for players is that in such a situation the fans can blame them. Well I hope none of them go on camera crying when Kettlewell goes. They are paid very well to do a job - whereas someone like me had to scrape every last penny I had together to buy my season ticket this year. Im not discounting your point of view. I just don't think this is all on Kettlewell Edited to say. I've been in more than one job that I've been treated very poorly in - I still had to turn up. I had no option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Saturday at 11:17 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:17 PM Agreed, its not all on SK. There were several occasions today when players pulled out of 50/50 challenges or made no effort to put in a very winnable challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM 1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said: Agreed, its not all on SK. There were several occasions today when players pulled out of 50/50 challenges or made no effort to put in a very winnable challenge. All I hope for right now is that we get players back from injury and we have a decent transfer window and kick on from there. It is gutting and I understand why people are upset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted Sunday at 05:17 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:17 AM I can’t remember the last time I was as confident of a win as I am for this one. 1-0 us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted Sunday at 11:44 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:44 AM 12 hours ago, wellgirl said: I actually don't think loads of fans have turned against him You clearly weren’t at Perth if you think that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted Sunday at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:55 PM 13 hours ago, wellgirl said: All I hope for right now is that we get players back from injury and we have a decent transfer window and kick on from there. It is gutting and I understand why people are upset A Football managers job is results driven, you could be the nicest man on the planet, all the players, fans, board etc think you are wonderful but if you don't get the results you will be unemployed. Yes there are mitigating factors, re injuries etc that hamper his team selection but he has shown no sign of learning from his mistakes, changing the way we play to suit the players we have available, and basically competing in games. Yesterday was a shambles from the kick off, no shape to the team, no desire to compete and get forward, no leadership against a team who to be honest are brutal, hardly scoring goals, and who had not won in 9 previous games. SK has shown he is not able to respond in a game, change the tactics, play players in their best positions, etc, we need a manager who can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Sunday at 12:55 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:55 PM 7 hours ago, MJC said: I can’t remember the last time I was as confident of a win as I am for this one. 1-0 us. Right own up.....who has hacked MJC's account? 🤪🤪 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Sunday at 01:46 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:46 PM No interest in going to this one. Or any other away game until the manager and the team prove they are worthy of such support. Might not even bother watching a stream if there is one. The manager needs this one. Win, and maybe the players are still with him. Lose, in another gutless performance devoid of evidence of any tactical shape and I may be forced to cross the floor to Wellfan's side of the chamber! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Sunday at 02:38 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:38 PM 50 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: No interest in going to this one. Or any other away game until the manager and the team prove they are worthy of such support. Our group will be represented next week and I'll be there. However it'll be out of a sense of duty to our club. Not expecting much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Sunday at 03:24 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 03:24 PM 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Win, and maybe the players are still with him. Lose, in another gutless performance devoid of evidence of any tactical shape and I may be forced to cross the floor to Wellfan's side of the chamber! I shall see you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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