Spit_It_Out Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 35 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said: I would be astonished if Lennon was anywhere near Fir Park , can't see that happen either It's a new board making the new decisions for the club you just don't know what way they are going to go. Anything could happen part of me thinks Frail might still get the gig. Hopefully we get someone in that's hands on wants to change the recruitment side of things aswell the Daws experiment needs to come to a close it's ran it's course for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 49 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said: https://news.stv.tv/sport/ayr-united-boss-scott-brown-rules-himself-out-of-vacant-motherwell-job Can't say I was a fan tbh 😭 and who says he was a front runner , made up media pish. I wouldn't have been unhappy if we had gone for him but couldnt care less he has ruled himself out from a job he may not have been getting offered anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: and who says he was a front runner , made up media pish. I wouldn't have been unhappy if we had gone for him but couldnt care less he has ruled himself out from a job he may not have been getting offered anyway. The Media in Scotland will link anyone with a Celtic or a Rangers connection to any job up here, recent past suggests the person who eventually gets the job will be none of the names linked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: I can only assume that Broonie has been awarded a pay rise in the past few days. I believe he got a pay rise and an extension when he turned the Hibs job down. Ayr have real aspirations of making the top tier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I notice nobody has mentioned Neil Warnock. 😂😂😂 well done everybody👏👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I quite fancy that old boy Neil Warnock done a steadfast job at Aberdeen. Can’t beat a bit of experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: I can only assume that Broonie has been awarded a pay rise in the past few days. Why? Do we know he was even being considered? Maybe by bookies but not board hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, wellon said: Why? Do we know he was even being considered? Maybe by bookies but not board hopefully Just an unsubstantiated hunch. Speculation if you will. Nothing more. He must have had some reason for coming out and saying that. Otherwise why not just keep quiet? There was no pressure on him to say anything. Did something similar over the St Johnstone vacancy when he was given a rise by Ayr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I am also ruling myself out of the Motherwell job. They are a great club and I'm sure they will find the right person, but that person will not be me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Just now, Kmcalpin said: Just an unsubstantiated hunch. Speculation if you will. Nothing more. He must have had some reason for coming out and saying that. The reason will have been a journalist calling him up, or talking at a presser and asking that specific question so they can fill a page. They will be asking any OF related manager the same so they can get their clicks. Hence the sub headline "The former Celtic captain has been tipped as a frontrunner to replace Stuart Kettlewell at Fir Park." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 It also helps keep the Ayr supporters happy. Even if he was not being considered there was enough crap in the newspapers to where Ayr supporters would be concerned but fair do’s to Brown for killing any speculation early on instead of leaving Ayr fans wondering. Of course there was the other Brown a while back who was going nowhere but just having a wee chat 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 53 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Just an unsubstantiated hunch. Speculation if you will. Nothing more. He must have had some reason for coming out and saying that. Otherwise why not just keep quiet? There was no pressure on him to say anything. Did something similar over the St Johnstone vacancy when he was given a rise by Ayr. we'd need context of the interview, the interviewer could have asked him about the rumours Motherwell were interested. Media always talk bollocks to try and get a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek1962 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 What do we think of Ian Murray no compen good job at Airdrie and Raith. Young coach Scottish experienced player good guy hard worker sacked after getting Raith to the playoffs and one game into the season. 5/1 in the betting believes in attacking football and deserves another shot at glory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Would not be surprised if Murray is in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Not really sure what "style" of football Murray's teams play, but he is quite an experienced manager now even at a young age and has a bit of success in the lower leagues. Raiths decision to can him last season after nearly bringing them up seemed very odd, although I dont remember their fans being that mad about it because of the poor start they had made? Wouldnt be the worst choice imho, but would be more of a wait and see kind of appointment. (Which to be fair, is likely to be the case whoever we go for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 54 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. I'm with you 100% on this. I don't see any Scottish based candidates that we should go for. There are a few decent Scottish managers in the championship/D1. Alex Neil, Gary Caldwell, Darren Ferguson, Shaun Maloney. We'd need timing to be on our side to land anyone of that type of quality. Id stay away from D2 onwards as that's the likes of GA, Adams etc - learn from our mistakes and the mistakes from others. Overall not many obvious quality candidates available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. To be honest, out of the bookies list, John McGlynn is probably one of the more attractive options given his experience. But there is no way we will be paying the fee required to get him, even if Falkirk were prepared to let him go and he wanted to come. I agree it will probably be a left field appointment based on interview performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Temuri Ketsbaia the latest name to be thrown in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Not really sure what "style" of football Murray's teams play, but he is quite an experienced manager now even at a young age and has a bit of success in the lower leagues. Raiths decision to can him last season after nearly bringing them up seemed very odd, although I dont remember their fans being that mad about it because of the poor start they had made? Wouldnt be the worst choice imho, but would be more of a wait and see kind of appointment. (Which to be fair, is likely to be the case whoever we go for). Ian Murray , I can't say if he's good or bad tbf...I remember he bought stuart cars well from us when st mirren mgr so that's a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 Let's be honest we're probably not going to get a manager currently in a job so by definition it's going to be an unemployed or a failed manager that's probably been punted from several clubs in their carreers. So previous records are not that important but what is important is experience of what's involved, dealing with players, used to operating on a budget, good contacts in the game etc. Whoever we get has a big rebuilding job in the summer to build a fit settled team so I hope the board are up to the task and get the appointment right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 16 minutes ago, wellon said: Ian Murray , I can't say if he's good or bad tbf...I remember he bought stuart cars well from us when st mirren mgr so that's a concern. Carswell made 28 league appearances for McCall when we finished 2nd in the league in 2013-14. I'd settle for him and those results any season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Let's be honest we're probably not going to get a manager currently in a job so by definition it's going to be an unemployed or a failed manager that's probably been punted from several clubs in their carreers. I imagine that SK was not entitled to a pay-off due to resigning. An unusual situation for us or any other team. So that will have saved us a few bob. I know we have always avoided paying buy-out fees for managers in the past, but the same was true for players. However, in recent seasons we have broken the player rule and forked over some cash on a few occasions. If the right manager is willing to join for a fee we can afford it might be a more viable option. Having said that, there are way more managers than there are jobs, so there is a large an active unemployed pool. There are also currently employed assistant managers and coaches who used to be managers, and they are often easier and less expensive to poach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, weeyin said: Carswell made 28 league appearances for McCall when we finished 2nd in the league in 2013-14. I'd settle for him and those results any season. Yep , I liked mccall but carswell was very ordinary and missed a sitter in a European game...kind of a Scottish davor...playing for Clyde the last l heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 8 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. being perpetual bridesmaid ? that could be our club motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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