FirParkCornerExile Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 53 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Just an unsubstantiated hunch. Speculation if you will. Nothing more. He must have had some reason for coming out and saying that. Otherwise why not just keep quiet? There was no pressure on him to say anything. Did something similar over the St Johnstone vacancy when he was given a rise by Ayr. we'd need context of the interview, the interviewer could have asked him about the rumours Motherwell were interested. Media always talk bollocks to try and get a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek1962 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 What do we think of Ian Murray no compen good job at Airdrie and Raith. Young coach Scottish experienced player good guy hard worker sacked after getting Raith to the playoffs and one game into the season. 5/1 in the betting believes in attacking football and deserves another shot at glory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Would not be surprised if Murray is in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Not really sure what "style" of football Murray's teams play, but he is quite an experienced manager now even at a young age and has a bit of success in the lower leagues. Raiths decision to can him last season after nearly bringing them up seemed very odd, although I dont remember their fans being that mad about it because of the poor start they had made? Wouldnt be the worst choice imho, but would be more of a wait and see kind of appointment. (Which to be fair, is likely to be the case whoever we go for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 54 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. I'm with you 100% on this. I don't see any Scottish based candidates that we should go for. There are a few decent Scottish managers in the championship/D1. Alex Neil, Gary Caldwell, Darren Ferguson, Shaun Maloney. We'd need timing to be on our side to land anyone of that type of quality. Id stay away from D2 onwards as that's the likes of GA, Adams etc - learn from our mistakes and the mistakes from others. Overall not many obvious quality candidates available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. To be honest, out of the bookies list, John McGlynn is probably one of the more attractive options given his experience. But there is no way we will be paying the fee required to get him, even if Falkirk were prepared to let him go and he wanted to come. I agree it will probably be a left field appointment based on interview performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Temuri Ketsbaia the latest name to be thrown in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Not really sure what "style" of football Murray's teams play, but he is quite an experienced manager now even at a young age and has a bit of success in the lower leagues. Raiths decision to can him last season after nearly bringing them up seemed very odd, although I dont remember their fans being that mad about it because of the poor start they had made? Wouldnt be the worst choice imho, but would be more of a wait and see kind of appointment. (Which to be fair, is likely to be the case whoever we go for). Ian Murray , I can't say if he's good or bad tbf...I remember he bought stuart cars well from us when st mirren mgr so that's a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 Let's be honest we're probably not going to get a manager currently in a job so by definition it's going to be an unemployed or a failed manager that's probably been punted from several clubs in their carreers. So previous records are not that important but what is important is experience of what's involved, dealing with players, used to operating on a budget, good contacts in the game etc. Whoever we get has a big rebuilding job in the summer to build a fit settled team so I hope the board are up to the task and get the appointment right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 16 minutes ago, wellon said: Ian Murray , I can't say if he's good or bad tbf...I remember he bought stuart cars well from us when st mirren mgr so that's a concern. Carswell made 28 league appearances for McCall when we finished 2nd in the league in 2013-14. I'd settle for him and those results any season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Let's be honest we're probably not going to get a manager currently in a job so by definition it's going to be an unemployed or a failed manager that's probably been punted from several clubs in their carreers. I imagine that SK was not entitled to a pay-off due to resigning. An unusual situation for us or any other team. So that will have saved us a few bob. I know we have always avoided paying buy-out fees for managers in the past, but the same was true for players. However, in recent seasons we have broken the player rule and forked over some cash on a few occasions. If the right manager is willing to join for a fee we can afford it might be a more viable option. Having said that, there are way more managers than there are jobs, so there is a large an active unemployed pool. There are also currently employed assistant managers and coaches who used to be managers, and they are often easier and less expensive to poach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, weeyin said: Carswell made 28 league appearances for McCall when we finished 2nd in the league in 2013-14. I'd settle for him and those results any season. Yep , I liked mccall but carswell was very ordinary and missed a sitter in a European game...kind of a Scottish davor...playing for Clyde the last l heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 8 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: Not quite convinced of Ian Murray. Looking back at his managerial record, it smacks of being the perpetual bridesmaid. Raith fans were not unduly upset when he was binned. One I spoke to on Monday opined he wasn't bad but not quite good enough. There are weaker potential appointments about i.e. John McGlynn, but nothing about him screams look at me. No obvious out of, or in, work, Scots based candidate. being perpetual bridesmaid ? that could be our club motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, wellon said: Yep , I liked mccall but carswell was very ordinary and missed a sitter in a European game...kind of a Scottish davor...playing for Clyde the last l heard Carswell was much derided at the time but he was a hard worker and had much more to his game than Davor. Similar in a lot of ways to Marc Fitzpatrick imho, who also never got a lot of credit in his time here, despite scoring a goal that took us to a cup final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Had a look at Ryan Lowes wiki. Very interesting reading. Management style influenced by Klopp and Guardiola. Plays attacking football. Done well at Bury, Plymouth and PNE. Never been sacked. Im all in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Blues Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Never been sacked. Man who has never been sacked becomes Motherwell manager? Irresistible force, meet immovable object. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Had a look at Ryan Lowes wiki. Very interesting reading. Management style influenced by Klopp and Guardiola. Plays attacking football. Done well at Bury, Plymouth and PNE. Never been sacked. Im all in! I looked at his record also and could be tempted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Would be ironic if we hired a guy who resigned from his last job because he needed a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Steven Naismith sitting as favourite for the job?? Are they fkn kidding me? Fk the fk off…… I’d rather have Halliday as player manager before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Naismith would be Kettlewell mk2. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, wellfan said: Naismith would be Kettlewell mk2. No thanks. Kettlewell is 100 times the manager Naismith is or was…. A huge “No Fkn way” from me. He’s at 3/1 as well….. that must be inside info from somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sand Dancer Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Our last 4 managers have all been appointed at at time of crisis i.e. facing possible relegation. In Robinson, Alexander and Kettlewell we chose to appoint Autocratic managers (no idea about Hammell's style other than blind panic). Studies show that the Autocratic manager has initial success but medium to long term failure. Are we therefore surprised that we are now again in the failure period. I would suggest, as we have a small buffer above the relegation spots, that we can afford to go for an "Auld Heed" (in it for the long term) who will manage the team and involve the coaches in a more democratic fashion. This should achieve the necessary response from the players to get the required points for safety. In addition this should break the 2 year cycle of boom, bust and sacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 7 hours ago, Richie said: Temuri Ketsbaia the latest name to be thrown in Remember Ketsbaia after scoring a goal for Newcastle booting the advertising board ,then ended up a Dundee player few years later If anything it would be something completely different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 25 minutes ago, The Sand Dancer said: In Robinson, Alexander and Kettlewell we chose to appoint Autocratic managers (no idea about Hammell's style other than blind panic). Autocratic too. Presumably Naismith leads the betting odds? Don't know about being the fans' favourite though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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