Our New Manager, who do we want?

[Bart Verheul]

1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

Had more poor deliveries than Parcelforce 

EVRI one a disappointment

 

I'll get my coat now

[FirParkCornerExile]

2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

A tad harsh. Yes, there is a lot of deadwood in our bloated squad but there are some decent players in there too. There are several problems though. The team is suffering from low confidence and secondly isn't playing for the current/old regime. Most importantly though we aren't getting the best out of what we have. Poor team selections, like today, and playing players out of position. We're no world beaters but aren't as bad as we appear to be. There's hope yet  

All about opinions and I respect yours but for me the team is stuffed full of dross. Its a given LM will leave , after that would I be concerned about losing any of the rest. Nope not a single one, well perhaps Paul McGinn.

[robsterwood]

9 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

All about opinions and I respect yours but for me the team is stuffed full of dross. Its a given LM will leave , after that would I be concerned about losing any of the rest. Nope not a single one.

Agree there partly. Teams full of journeymen and guys that didn't make it at previous clubs. Struggling to think of any worth keeping. Only ones I value are  Maswinise. Liam gordon Kaletta, Euan Wilson, Ox  and Miler. I'm not going back untill changes made. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

14 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Agree there partly. Teams full of journeymen and guys that didn't make it at previous clubs. Struggling to think of any worth keeping. Only ones I value are  Maswinise. Liam gordon Kaletta, Euan Wilson, Ox  and Miler. I'm not going back untill changes made. 

Kaletta is slower than a week in the jail and positional sense abysmal, Euan Wilsons distribution is honking and couldnt tackle a fish supper, Maswinise is rarely in control of the ball its like the connection between his brain and his feet short circuits. I'm not saying they aren't capable of good games but their consistency is so pitifully poor it makes them completely dispensable for me...and please Im not interested in the "if they were any good they wouldn't be at Motherwell". These players serve up dross week in week out. Its been dire for nearly two seasons. If we cant aspire or find better we should give up. 3800 Motherwell fans tells its own story.

[Kmcalpin]

Our new man is not Van Der Gaag according to Scott Burns. Any ideas? If foreign and continental it looks like a real gamble. Seemingly he'll bring in his own No 2. 

[joewarkfanclub]

The Aussie Guy?

[fizoxy]

German cos of the chairman's links to there? (stole that from P&B, I forgot about that link).

[wellsince75]

8 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

The Aussie Guy?

Graham Arnold. He got himself a new job in Aus - suspect he touted himself to show open to offers. 

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/graham-arnold-joins-rabbitohs-as-for-2025-season

[robsterwood]

11 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Kaletta is slower than a week in the jail and positional sense abysmal, Euan Wilsons distribution is honking and couldnt tackle a fish supper, Maswinise is rarely in control of the ball its like the connection between his brain and his feet short circuits. I'm not saying they aren't capable of good games but their consistency is so pitifully poor it makes them completely dispensable for me...and please Im not interested in the "if they were any good they wouldn't be at Motherwell". These players serve up dross week in week out. Its been dire for nearly two seasons. If we cant aspire or find better we should give up. 3800 Motherwell fans tells its own story.

I think the 3 you talk about have potential as they all are young and still developing and have degree of talent to work on. I know all 3s form has not been great but that's same for whole team 

[Spiderpig]

A manager of good pedigree to be announced tomorrow, according to Frail

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14347739/major-update-motherwell-manager-stevie-frail/

[FirParkCornerExile]

1 hour ago, robsterwood said:

I think the 3 you talk about have potential as they all are young and still developing and have degree of talent to work on. I know all 3s form has not been great but that's same for whole team 

Correct thats why I couldnt care less if they all fucked off , consistency levels well below even what a club of our size should find acceptable.

[FirParkCornerExile]

Just now, Spiderpig said:

A manager of good pedigree to be announced tomorrow, according to Frail

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/14347739/major-update-motherwell-manager-stevie-frail/

I suspect he'd need  a God like pedigree to turn that squad of shite into anything resembling a competent team

[Spiderpig]

20 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I suspect he'd need  a God like pedigree to turn that squad of shite into anything resembling a competent team

Time will tell on that statement, the immediate priority of whoever comes in is to avoid us getting dragged into a relegation fight, the real work starts in the summer.

There will no doubt be a massive clear out and the new management can build their team and set their own style of play etc.

I hope the club gets the appointment right as we need a period of stability going forward to really build a team and get away from the constant churn of managers and players we've had with Alexander, Hammell and Kettlewell.

[Spit_It_Out]

18 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Time will tell on that statement, the immediate priority of whoever comes in is to avoid us getting dragged into a relegation fight, the real work starts in the summer.

There will no doubt be a massive clear out and the new management can build their team and set their own style of play etc.

I hope the club gets the appointment right as we need a period of stability going forward to really build a team and get away from the constant churn of managers and players we've had with Alexander, Hammell and Kettlewell.

Hence why Daws needs to go and we need to come up with a different strategy of recruiting.

This summer and winter transfer window was a total howler it blows my mind why we took two players off rival clubs,taking a wage of there books and burning it on ours  two below average players that have added nothing to the squad.

Let's hope the new manager and assistant can bring new ideas to squeak us over the line and gets to build how they see fit.

[FirParkCornerExile]

6 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

Hence why Daws needs to go and we need to come up with a different strategy of recruiting.

This summer and winter transfer window was a total howler it blows my mind why we took two players off rival clubs,taking a wage of there books and burning it on ours  two below average players that have added nothing to the squad.

Let's hope the new manager and assistant can bring new ideas to squeak us over the line and gets to build how they see fit.

SK was well supported by the club in three transfer windows and in the main we've assembled a squad of utter dross. None will convince me we are not the worst team in the league right now. I havent seen any team worse than us and thats frightening cos this league is full of pish.

[steelman1991]

1 minute ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

SK was well supported by the club in three transfer windows and in the main we've assembled a squad of utter dross. None will convince me we are not the worst team in the league right now. I havent seen any team worse than us and thats frightening cos this league is full of pish.

Yip - I keep reading that we only need 3 wins to secure safety, but my god I don't see where those wins will come from we're so poor.

[FirParkCornerExile]

2 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

Yip - I keep reading that we only need 3 wins to secure safety, but my god I don't see where those wins will come from we're so poor.

I'm not so sure 3 wins , I've been saying for weeks that 11th will have the highest points total in the history of the play off. I think 41/42 points could see a team in the play offs.

[brainier]

4 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I think 41/42 points could see a team in the play offs.

That's us in trouble then.

[grizzlyg]

16 hours ago, Bart Verheul said:

EVRI one a disappointment

 

I'll get my coat now

We once got a parcel delivered and I asked who by, Mrs grizzly replied. "Yodel"

I replied. "Lay ee oh ho hooooooo"

Make that 2 coats

[wellsince75]

It's the same squad now that had us 4th in the league albeit with lack of entertainment. 

Long term there's probably 4-5 players I'd retain and the rest can go,  9 other SPL clubs will be saying the same.

Short term can be turned around, we've proven to be good enough and with a decent manager it's not inconceivable that we'll secure another 3-4 wins this season 

3 things need to happen before end of season, 

1) New manager gives us something to cheer for on the park 
2) sort the squad out - who stays and goes 
3) sort the broader roles out eg I'd like to see majority of backroom staff who came in in last 3 years leave.  (example - Dawes and Foster)
 

[Kmcalpin]

8 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I'm not so sure 3 wins , I've been saying for weeks that 11th will have the highest points total in the history of the play off. I think 41/42 points could see a team in the play offs.

Absolutely. Things are very tight between 6th and 11th spot; 4 points in fact and you'd think Hearts will gradually pull away out of the dogfight. I also suspect St Johnstone will earn at least 10 points from their next 12 games. 

[stv]

1 hour ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I suspect he'd need  a God like pedigree to turn that squad of shite into anything resembling a competent team

Just remember what happened when Hamell and Kettlewell initially took over , the teams they took over were “dross / shite / crap “ and they turned things around quickly even if it was just for a limited period. Hopefully the new guy can get a bounce and win at least the three games required to keep us safe.

[Kmcalpin]

6 minutes ago, stv said:

Just remember what happened when Hamell and Kettlewell initially took over , the teams they took over were “dross / shite / crap “ and they turned things around quickly even if it was just for a limited period. Hopefully the new guy can get a bounce and win at least the three games required to keep us safe.

Yes. I think its clear that the old regime had lost the dressing room. Hopefully a new manager will give their confidence a boost. I don't get why Casey was on the bench yesterday. OK, I now he's not our saviour, but if he's really really upset Frail & Kettlewell then just drop him altogther. If he was on the bench then he must have been in Frail's plans. The players' off the ball work rate also needs to be upped somewhat.

[Spit_It_Out]

Kettlewell has more to answer for than he is getting he has sucked the footballing life out of these players with his constant dross tactics it's there to see what we have been witnessing and Frail just kept the that up.

They need to shake this Kettlewell hangover off asap and just get us over the line plenty points to get but is time for everyone of them to snap out of it and move on.

New start tomorrow let's hope they all get on the same page quickly.

 

 

 

 

[FirParkCornerExile]

39 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

It's the same squad now that had us 4th in the league albeit with lack of entertainment. 

Long term there's probably 4-5 players I'd retain and the rest can go,  9 other SPL clubs will be saying the same.

Short term can be turned around, we've proven to be good enough and with a decent manager it's not inconceivable that we'll secure another 3-4 wins this season 

3 things need to happen before end of season, 

1) New manager gives us something to cheer for on the park 
2) sort the squad out - who stays and goes 
3) sort the broader roles out eg I'd like to see majority of backroom staff who came in in last 3 years leave.  (example - Dawes and Foster)
 

With the greatest of respect mate it doesn't matter where a squad 'had us' at a certain point in the season. A squad is built for the endeavours of a season and its where you end up at the end that matters and this squad just doesn't cut it, they are garbage.