SteelmaninOZ Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Back to the bread and butter game will we have a new manager in? I think we will get a long needed win with this one, yes? COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 A huge game for us. Win and we're still competing for top 6 with the play off place disappearing behind us. Lose and we're being dragged into a dogfight. Not sure if we'll have a new manager in place beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Think it will still be Freil. Then we can judge how good he is in a winnable game . Not just against the best team by miles in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 This game could be a season defining result, lose and our downward spiral into the relegation dogfight continues apace. Win it and it will give us a wee bit more breathing space. We need 6 points out the next 9 I think to keep us out of the mire... right now I wouldnt put bad money on us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 We need a new manager in place for this. The game is way too important for all the reasons listed above. The supporters and players both need a gee up. The correct appointment and an inspirational presser could go a long way. Miller & Slattery both making the squad would also help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 The last (away) game against County was depressingly awful, so I would hope that this game at the very least won’t be any worse. My scant optimism suggests a draw at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 51 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: We need a new manager in place for this. The game is way too important for all the reasons listed above. The supporters and players both need a gee up. The correct appointment and an inspirational presser could go a long way. Miller & Slattery both making the squad would also help! Absolutely need a new manager Celtic or not - I didn't see anything to suggest Frail had any alterations to Kettlewells failing formation Adding to that the fact that he will likely play anyone in front of Casey at the back - Frail needs moved on prior to this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 21 minutes ago, wunderwell said: Absolutely need a new manager Celtic or not - I didn't see anything to suggest Frail had any alterations to Kettlewells failing formation Adding to that the fact that he will likely play anyone in front of Casey at the back - Frail needs moved on prior to this game. Given how unprepared the Board were for Kettlewell’s departure, I’m not confident they saw anything wrong with Kettlewell’s (and Frail’s) failing style of play. That’s the overriding concern for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 This game is the very definition of a must win, only 3 points will be acceptable to stop the rot and get us looking upwards. A top 6 finish and a shot at a European place is still very achievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 28 minutes ago, wunderwell said: Absolutely need a new manager Celtic or not - I didn't see anything to suggest Frail had any alterations to Kettlewells failing formation Adding to that the fact that he will likely play anyone in front of Casey at the back - Frail needs moved on prior to this game. I wouldnt write Frail off so quickly. He was right to say that ripping things up v Celtic would have been a mistake. He only had a few days to prepare the team. Wholesale changes could have backfired spectacularly and seen us on the receiving end of a hiding. Even if the new manager is unveiled next week, they wont be in the door long enough to have any impact on tactics and formation for this game. Frail will have had a full 2 weeks to the Ross County game to put his own stamp on things and put enough work into the team to have them drilled effectively. If he doesnt change anything, then questions should be asked. Ultimately though, the new manager will need someone there initially with knowledge of the players and the league, unless of course we go down the homegrown route, which I just dont see. On the Casey subject. Even if he has been left out for speaking his mind, surely enough time has passed now to bring him back in from the cold. The point has been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 37 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: On the Casey subject. Even if he has been left out for speaking his mind, surely enough time has passed now to bring him back in from the cold. The point has been made. Yes, good point. Maybe that and allegedly signing a PCA with Hertz. Time to bring him back on board. Stephen Frail does seem closely aligned with the dearly departed Stuart Kettlewell, but is maybe a different character. You can't turn a supertanker around quickly, but hopefully SF will manage to alter tactics a bit for the County game. Edit: we've yet to beat them this season - a good time to start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 We did fight back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 I could be wrong and I hope I am not but I honestly think they might drag this out hope Frail can beat Ross County so they can give him the gig just so we can get more of the same served up to us.They wanted Kettlewell to stay so they are getting the next best thing really with Frail. Ross County game won't make or break the season but I can't see us getting back into the top six again if we drop out with Frail at the helm.New ideas fresh approach we might just pull it off if not then it's same old drag til the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 The playing side has been boring to watch for spectators, and also ineffective of late. A fresh pair of eyes and a new broom are required to sweep away the staleness. They are vital. Hopefully the club is attuned to fan discontent and unrest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said: The playing side has been boring to watch for spectators, and also ineffective of late. A fresh pair of eyes and a new broom are required to sweep away the staleness. They are vital. Hopefully the club is attuned to fan discontent and unrest. Yeah I totally agree I have watched football from the Spfl to the lowland league and we are by far the least entertaining side I have watched this season it isn't even close. I honestly think the board are already disconnected from the fans after the last mess a divide already. But like I said they thought Kettlewell was doing an amazing job so Frail will be the next best thing to them if he wins Vs Ross County it's almost guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 18 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: Yeah I totally agree I have watched football from the Spfl to the lowland league and we are by far the least entertaining side I have watched this season it isn't even close. I honestly think the board are already disconnected from the fans after the last mess a divide already. But like I said they thought Kettlewell was doing an amazing job so Frail will be the next best thing to them if he wins Vs Ross County it's almost guaranteed. Im not sure where you are getting the disconnect from? Given that the board are now all Well Society members, the board literally are all Motherwell fans. I get that folks are annoyed about being blamed for SKs resignation. It pissed me off too. But there has been significant back peddling on that since, with it being mentioned in virtually every media release and interview since. Also heard on Off the Ball earlier that Brian Caldwell recently lost his father, so maybe that played into his presentation last week and we can forgive him and the club for taking a little time to sort things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 56 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: The playing side has been boring to watch for spectators, and also ineffective of late. A fresh pair of eyes and a new broom are required to sweep away the staleness. They are vital. Hopefully the club is attuned to fan discontent and unrest. You are being generous "of late" .... much of last season was utter dross too, you not remember St Mirren and Morton in both cups and the 16 game run of utter shite. preceded by St Hammel's reign of utter shite , proceeded by GAs turgid style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Frail will still be in charge and we will not win. A drab draw at best 1-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Im not sure where you are getting the disconnect from? Given that the board are now all Well Society members, the board literally are all Motherwell fans. I get that folks are annoyed about being blamed for SKs resignation. It pissed me off too. But there has been significant back peddling on that since, with it being mentioned in virtually every media release and interview since. I see both sides of the coin here. However, there was also the issue of under 14s being refused entry to games, if not accompanied by an adult. This limit was imposed without any consultation whatsoever and upset a fair few families. I agree with the thinking behind it, but consider the 14 threshold a bit high. Other clubs obviously thought the same. That too could have been handled better. Over the past week or two a few posters, and respected ones at that, have articulated discontent with a slight but slowly widening gap between club and fans (and with the Society to a lesser extent|). One or two other fans have also mentioned this to me. Not at the serious stage yet but this slight rift needs to be healed now; morseso that we're a fan owned club. As it happens, I emailed the Society recently to express this very concern. The Society needs the members to particpate fully and notify it of any concerns rather than let them grow out of hand. Lets turn this into a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Massive game and I am going to bang the cheerleader drum again. We need the support to get right behind the team. Any discontent just plays right into Ross County hands. The fans deserve a big performance after the way we have been treated last fortnight ( apart from the clowns that were giving SK abuse) COYW 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 If they want the 2025/26 season ticket sales to take a hit, they’ll not appoint a new manager this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 12 hours ago, wunderwell said: Absolutely need a new manager Celtic or not - I didn't see anything to suggest Frail had any alterations to Kettlewells failing formation Agree, formation didnt change but application & determination did. We were still in the game for 70 odd minutes & made celtic work for their win. Thats a big contrast from most of the shite served up this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 11 hours ago, Big Stall said: Agree, formation didnt change but application & determination did. We were still in the game for 70 odd minutes & made celtic work for their win. Thats a big contrast from most of the shite served up this season I thought that we did show some improvement, but not a great deal, in terms of work rate and attitude. Celtic worked far harder than us when we had possession. By comparison we sat off them, Kettlewell style, and didn't put tackles in. Not all players gave 100%. A huge change in attitude and work rate is required for next weekend. Even allowing for injuries, I believe that the current crop is capable of upping their game considerably. They have to be motivated though and played to their strengths. A priority is to sort out our midfield and defence to make sure we're harder to play against, and to give our striker(s) more ammunition and support. They also need to be told in no uncertain terms, that a game isn't finished at half time, it lasts for 90+ minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 20 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Massive game and I am going to bang the cheerleader drum again. We need the support to get right behind the team. Any discontent just plays right into Ross County hands. The fans deserve a big performance after the way we have been treated last fortnight ( apart from the clowns that were giving SK abuse) COYW That first line doesn't come across well on a phone screen 😄 I'm confident our fans will be behind whoever is in the dugout and on the park next week. In general, we read the room well as an overall support. Seeing slattery back in training, and hopefully Miller and AP to follow, is encouraging. I wouldn't expect any of them to start, but they're all capable of making an impact from the bench. I don't see Frail changing the system or personnel to a great degree. He will likely see the 2 week break as a solution to our lack of energy, and that our home record is pretty good to date, and want to stick with what worked previously. it will most likely be subtle changes. It will be interesting to see if any of the new loanees start, and at who's expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, fizoxy said: That first line doesn't come across well on a phone screen 😄 I'm confident our fans will be behind whoever is in the dugout and on the park next week. In general, we read the room well as an overall support. Seeing slattery back in training, and hopefully Miller and AP to follow, is encouraging. I wouldn't expect any of them to start, but they're all capable of making an impact from the bench. I don't see Frail changing the system or personnel to a great degree. He will likely see the 2 week break as a solution to our lack of energy, and that our home record is pretty good to date, and want to stick with what worked previously. it will most likely be subtle changes. It will be interesting to see if any of the new loanees start, and at who's expense. Whoops!! Yes reading again it sounds a tad rude.....shhhhhhh don't tell Mrs grizzly 🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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