Spiderpig Posted Saturday at 08:52 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:52 PM 2 minutes ago, El Grew said: I fail to see how that could have been worse That's your problem right there with that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Saturday at 08:53 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:53 PM 3 minutes ago, El Grew said: I fail to see how that could have been worse We could be sitting in exactly the same scenario but no longer own the club and be able to protect it from dubious individuals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM 4 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: That's your problem right there with that statement. Great post; not! FYI I do not have a problem. However I can’t be arsed getting into a debate with folk that post cryptic drivel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM 12 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: We could be sitting in exactly the same scenario but no longer own the club and be able to protect it from dubious individuals... That’s like owning a house without a roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Saturday at 09:10 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:10 PM 3 minutes ago, El Grew said: That’s like owning a house without a roof. Better than having a house without a roof being reclaimed by the bank.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted Saturday at 09:11 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:11 PM Just watched the lowlights - very poor defensively . That could the last game for several players , why anyone thinks SOD should be in central defence is beyond me. Not his fault but he’s not suited to that role. there’s several players not offering anything , Paton and Davor aren’t the long term solution but at least they’d put in a shift . new gaffer has a pretty tough gig for now - sorting the wheat from the chaff we need to change formation - even just to do something different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Saturday at 09:22 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:22 PM 5 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: why anyone thinks SOD should be in central defence is beyond me. Not his fault but he’s not suited to that role. This what frustrates me no end about the current (thankfully soon to be past) set up. Many of us have been saying this for weeks or even months, yet today he again starts there. Its not his fault. We say that because it just hasn't worked time after time. It's tantamount to shooting ourselves in foot needlessly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM Kettlewell's stewardship has sucked all the life out of our club. He knew exactly what he was doing when he jumped ship. That;s as insipid a performance as I've seen in a long while. The "senior" pro's need to be moved out at the end of the season (SOD, Halliday and Watt), they are giving us nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Saturday at 11:14 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:14 PM Of todays team..... Balcombe - move on Sparrow - keep SOD - keep as utility/back up Gordon - keep Balmer - move on Thompson - move on Miller - sell for ££££ Halliday - move on Slattery - keep Watt - send back to Dundee Utd Armstrong - keep if an option Nicholson - keep Maswanhise - keep/sell Plange - return to Crystal Palace Wilson - put on a diet / fitness plan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted Saturday at 11:15 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:15 PM 2 hours ago, El Grew said: I fail to see how that could have been worse I know the subject was done to death in the summer, so I won't go back over it, but trust me, it could and likely would have been much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted Saturday at 11:50 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:50 PM 35 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: SOD - keep as utility/back up You have to be on something to type that. The man's a complete liability. Get him tae f..k. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Saturday at 11:54 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:54 PM Without going on ad nauseum, I thought today's performance was very Kettlewellesque. Ok, we did enjoy more possession (as we did in our first game of the league season against them). However we lacked pace, leadership, creativity and penetration. When not in possession, we were passive, didn't work hard enough, sat off them and defended too deeply. In contrast they worked far harder and closed us down quickly. They defended 40/50 yards from goal and we struggled to get anywhere near their penalty box. Offensively, we simply lumped up too many high balls to their defenders, although we did play more on the deck today. The return of Lennon Miller and Callum Slattery is to be welcomed although the latter was well off the pace and clearly not match fit. Young Miller is a great and talented prospect but he's not the type of player to get fans off their seats or light a game up. His style doesn't suit our set up. An all too familiar story. A final thought. I think the bottom 4 teams will be St Johnstone, Dundee, Ross County and ourselves although I don't know in which order. Many are worried that we'll finish up in the play off slot but I'm concerned we'll finish up in the bottom one. The one great unknown factor though is our new manager, whoever he'll be (now not likely to be Mitchell van der Gaag, according to Scott Burns). My hope is that he blows in like a hurricane, brings the winds of change and steadies our ship. If he does that, or even arrives like a gale, then that'll do me. I'm writing off next Saturday at Tannadice as a free hit. However, I'll be looking to take a point off Dundee and beat St Mirren the following week. 4 points from those 6 may seem like an impossible task but no reason why we shouldn't go for it with a new man at the helm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Saturday at 11:57 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:57 PM 6 minutes ago, steelman1991 said: You have to be on something to type that. The man's a complete liability. Get him tae f..k. Room for all opinions on here including yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppower Posted Sunday at 01:04 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:04 AM 4 hours ago, Spiderpig said: That's your problem right there with that statement. I love your cryptic answers. Member of the Well Society no doubt 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spiderpig Posted Sunday at 09:06 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:06 AM 8 hours ago, ppower said: I love your cryptic answers. Member of the Well Society no doubt 🤣🤣🤣 No not a member, never joined the WS as I've never agreed with it from the start, our fanbase is too small to make it effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted Sunday at 09:31 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:31 AM 9 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: I'm writing off next Saturday at Tannadice as a free hit. However, I'll be looking to take a point off Dundee and beat St Mirren the following week. 4 points from those 6 may seem like an impossible task but no reason why we shouldn't go for it with a new man at the helm. Unfortunately we also have a trip to Ibrox between the Dundee and St Mirren games, although I guess we could add that to the "writing off" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Sunday at 09:56 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:56 AM 22 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Unfortunately we also have a trip to Ibrox between the Dundee and St Mirren games, although I guess we could add that to the "writing off" list. Ah, I'd missed that. Not often I'd say it about this fixture, but thats a bit of relief. Another game with nothing at stake/free hit for the new manager to get to know his charges and implement his own ideas before a winnable home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted Sunday at 10:45 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:45 AM 11 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said: Of todays team..... Balcombe - move on Sparrow - keep SOD - keep as utility/back up Gordon - keep Balmer - move on Thompson - move on Miller - sell for ££££ Halliday - move on Slattery - keep Watt - send back to Dundee Utd Armstrong - keep if an option Nicholson - keep Maswanhise - keep/sell Plange - return to Crystal Palace Wilson - put on a diet / fitness plan So you would keep sod who has years, not months of poor performances but not give a chance to the lad plange who has had about 30 mins on the park...I thought he looked OK when he came on. He might nit be any good but how can you tell in time he's had. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted Sunday at 11:04 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:04 AM Sadly we’ve been going downhill slowly both with management and recruitment from the time of Robinson leaving. I would say five/six years ago the standard of players we had was higher, and even they were getting stick but it’s now just a massive squad with players that can’t even get in lower league teams down south. I’m not actually sure what the answer is, changing manager after manager certainly does not work, having a big squad does not work, the youth development brings in cash at times but it’s not generating results. Sadly it seems next to impossible to grow the attendances, they hardly move upwards even when the club is doing well, yesterday 3973. It’s difficult to see anything other than another manager coming in who signs more players before a percentage of the support gets on his back and he’s out of the door. The clubs needs some long term consistancy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Sunday at 11:43 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:43 AM 54 minutes ago, wellon said: So you would keep sod who has years, not months of poor performances but not give a chance to the lad plange who has had about 30 mins on the park...I thought he looked OK when he came on. He might nit be any good but how can you tell in time he's had. We have a bloated squad that needs trimmed we cant keep them all. Armstrong has shown up well and looks out of the picture at Carlisle. There may be an opportunity there. Plange has been sent out for development. Presumably his parent club still see a future for him. Not writing him off at all, but once our injuries clear up we need to make decisions based on whats good for our squad / players. It will be harsh on some. Thats football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted Sunday at 11:56 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:56 AM Very very poor 90 minutes yesterday, really need a new appointment in soon and a clearance of that bloated squad in the summer Quite clear now Stephen Frail does not look to be staying on either , a fresh approach is what we are needing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted Sunday at 12:05 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:05 PM The bloated squad is a real problem. The new manager has to assess over 30 players and come up with his best eleven. This could take a few weeks especially if he is new to Scotland and has little prior knowledge of our players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted Sunday at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:41 PM 29 minutes ago, sinjy said: The bloated squad is a real problem. The new manager has to assess over 30 players and come up with his best eleven. This could take a few weeks especially if he is new to Scotland and has little prior knowledge of our players. Knowledge of the Scottish game would be a bonus, but not essential. Any half competent coach / manager should be able to assess a player's basic ability and application very quickly and determine if they will fit the style he wants to play, so I expect a clear out given the shite we are currently seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM Hopefully new manager realises Thompson is not a player, jeez!! . Watched highlights and SOD poor for 2nd goal but isn't a centre half. Casey must have given SK and Frail some amount of pelters. As for the goalie he looks very poor, the amount of times he parried the ball was crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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