Michael Wimmer Discussion Thread

[naudywell]

22 hours ago, AllyMax said:

Been thinking about this too. I think if you look at the non old firm teams that do well, or look back to our finishing 2nd or 3rd years or our 2 cup finals with Robbo.......we weren't exactly a football team. Kick rush, win the 2nd ball, swarm all over teams, score from punts into the box, win the 2nd ball and win the 2nd ball again. I think foreign coaches come here and try to bring in a different type of football....with possession, movement, positioning, supporting the player with the ball, and our players just can't carry it off that well. It'll work against some teams, but generally you'll come up against the hard fighting 2nd ball winners like killie or st mirren who will just bulldoze you. There's no four year development period for foreign managers introducing a new football ethos across a clubs ranks and levels. You're oot on your hole in 6 months if the results don't keep you competing for top 6 at least. These managers then have to sacrifice their 'football ethics' to survive.

The reality of this makes my heart sink

[wellfan]

24 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

So booing is legitimate criticism now? I always thought that it involved words of mainly more than one syllable put together in a coherent sentence.

Again, were you at the game? Probably not. But for the avoidance of doubt, ‘getting booed’ in a football context can mean boos and shouts and jeers, etc. It’s a generic term. Regardless, solely booing someone or something can also be a way for a person or group of people to express legitimate criticism if they choose to do so. Are you the legitimate criticism police? 

[wellgirl]

52 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

So booing is legitimate criticism now? I always thought that it involved words of mainly more than one syllable put together in a coherent sentence.

Im pretty sure from where I was sitting that the boos weren't just aimed at SOD. The entire team got booed off at half time 

[wellgirl]

2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

Good post. I suspect he'll lean heavily on  the likes of David Clarkson and Jon Obika to pick his first ever Well team. Once he sees them in action for himself, he will start to make his own mind up and shake things up. In terms of tactics he may gradually introduce his own ideas. 

I really hope not. He needs to do his own thing and pick his own team 

[wellgirl]

1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:

Maybe siege mentality and raging with SK but I am desperate for Wimmer and Koc to be a success.  Koc looks like a great character and great link between Michael and dressing room.    We need to give these lads a chance and realise this isn't an overnight project.    I do try to humour everyone but underneath there is an incredibly passionate well fan that loves this club

I'll personally always give a new manager a chance. Be interesting to see how things pan out though. 

[Mad Dog]

1 hour ago, wellfan said:

Again, were you at the game? Probably not. But for the avoidance of doubt, ‘getting booed’ in a football context can mean boos and shouts and jeers, etc. It’s a generic term. Regardless, solely booing someone or something can also be a way for a person or group of people to express legitimate criticism if they choose to do so. Are you the legitimate criticism police? 

Booing, shouting and jeering are three different things. None of them are legitimate criticism, they're just noise. Criticism should be reasonable, balanced and constructive like, for example, the majority of your posts are ill thought out and poorly worded which results in an overly negative narrative.

[wunderwell]

56 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

Booing, shouting and jeering are three different things. None of them are legitimate criticism, they're just noise. Criticism should be reasonable, balanced and constructive like, for example, the majority of your posts are ill thought out and poorly worded which results in an overly negative narrative.

I don't boo at all - never have just my views.  I also don't expect the team to come out and hear an individual Graham Speirs like critique individually of their performance at the end of games . For those that want to boo it's certainly understandable when being gubbed by Ross County at home.

Let me also add, if those fans didn't boo. Kettlewell would still be in a job.
He doesn't read online forums - only his wife, kids, cousins and family pets do.

[joewarkfanclub]

Booing is part of football and as old as time.

I never do it during the game unless its at the officials! 😉

But if a performance has been utterly honking then I think its fair game at half time or full time.

Singling individual players out though has never been my bag. Not really sure what it achieves.

[wellfan]

1 hour ago, Mad Dog said:

Criticism should be reasonable, balanced and constructive

I was right, you are the criticism police. 

1 hour ago, Mad Dog said:

the majority of your posts are ill thought out and poorly worded which results in an overly negative narrative.

Glad to have you engaged in ‘legitimate criticism’, although perhaps lacking a constructive strand.

[texanwellfan]

This thread seems to have gone off on a tangent. 😳

[stv]

2 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

This thread seems to have gone off on a tangent. 😳

Booo! Booo! Booo!

[robsterwood]

Think he's in for the wrong gig?

[robsterwood]

Wimmer and real Koc

[weeyin]

I hope I never have to rely eyewitness testimony from some of the posters on here.

[Stuwell2]

18 hours ago, Yoshi-1991 said:

This has been our biggest weakness this season, the amount of times we have conceded possession from giving away the ball needlessly is nothing short of criminal. 

Totally agree with you and it’s not always SOD, every player has cocked up simple passes, taken to many touches, tried little flick that were never on, not looked up before passing or humping the ball up the park, been caught wrong sided, failed to track back and many other mistakes - all very annoying to watch but sadly it’s the level of player we can afford at the moment. 

[grizzlyg]

47 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I hope I never have to rely eyewitness testimony from some of the posters on here.

Ahmet actually reminds me a wee bit of Bob Mortimer 

[joewarkfanclub]

16 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Ahmet actually reminds me a wee bit of Bob Mortimer 

Have you ever considered a career in refereeing?

😆😆😆

[joewarkfanclub]

18 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Ahmet actually reminds me a wee bit of Bob Mortimer 

Looks more like Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast!

[grizzlyg]

21 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Looks more like Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast!

Agree....think you win

[David]

Hopefully we aren't looking for a new manager any time soon, but if and when the time comes, I think the title of the thread should be "Our New Manager, who should he look like?"

[grizzlyg]

Some new clips out....one with palange and one with chairman.  Palange saying they are now on double training sessions so that should be good fitness wise for the high intensity plan.  

[grizzlyg]

And guy with baseball cap in stand fir Ross County game was the chairman's dad 🤣🤣

[wellgirl]

3 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

Some new clips out....one with palange and one with chairman.  Palange saying they are now on double training sessions so that should be good fitness wise for the high intensity plan.  

*plange* sorry to be that pedant 

[SteelmaninOZ]

Kyrk Macmillan re Wimmer appointment 
 

 

[grizzlyg]

24 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

*plange* sorry to be that pedant 

Sorry wallgirl  🤪🤪