Spiderpig Posted Tuesday at 04:14 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:14 PM 1 hour ago, MJC said: So, you’re accusing me of being a Rangers fan yet in the very next sentence bemoan that in this part of the world nobody believes you when you say you support a non-Old Firm club?? That's because the non ugly sister's fans are very much in the minority and the blue and green hoardes refuse to accept any other reality than Billy's or Tim's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM 1 hour ago, MJC said: My dislike of Celtic doesn’t outweigh my support of Motherwell. If a player or manager is wearing our colours giving their all for us then that’s all I care about. The team they support doesn’t matter. That’s the difference. To be honest, i didnt think otherwise. What seems very strange however is that you are absolutley sure some of our fans hate Rangers more than they love Motherwell...... but yet you spew venom (rightly or wrongly) at the other arse cheek and dont stop to think it could be viewed in the exact same way...... A bit of self awareness mate goes a long way 😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted Tuesday at 06:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:29 PM 1 hour ago, Big Stall said: To be honest, i didnt think otherwise. What seems very strange however is that you are absolutley sure some of our fans hate Rangers more than they love Motherwell...... but yet you spew venom (rightly or wrongly) at the other arse cheek and dont stop to think it could be viewed in the exact same way...... A bit of self awareness mate goes a long way 😉 I actually don’t think it’s purely football related. I think some of our pro union thinking supporters think that when some of us have a go at Rangers and their Union Jack waving, god save the king, drum bangers, that they take this as a personal slight on them and their beliefs. i think we have a large number of pro Scotland/ pro independence supporters at the club and for some reason a minority of our pro union fans think some of us are pro Celtic……. Speaking as a pro independence supporter,(sorry if that annoys anyone) I can’t stand either Rangers or Celtic, but I do get a bit of sick in my mouth when I see the butchers apron (Union Jack) But I do think anyone who has the urge to post on this forum clearly does so as they are Motherwell fans through and through and I don’t believe anyone hates teams more than they love our side…. As that’d be mental. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted Tuesday at 06:56 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:56 PM 20 hours ago, wellgirl said: Someone offered me 100 quid for my season ticket on skippy Sunday. I declined Random Celtic fan I met on the bus. Memories like that are priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM 1 hour ago, mio said: I actually don’t think it’s purely football related. I think some of our pro union thinking supporters think that when some of us have a go at Rangers and their Union Jack waving, god save the king, drum bangers, that they take this as a personal slight on them and their beliefs. i think we have a large number of pro Scotland/ pro independence supporters at the club and for some reason a minority of our pro union fans think some of us are pro Celtic……. Speaking as a pro independence supporter,(sorry if that annoys anyone) I can’t stand either Rangers or Celtic, but I do get a bit of sick in my mouth when I see the butchers apron (Union Jack) But I do think anyone who has the urge to post on this forum clearly does so as they are Motherwell fans through and through and I don’t believe anyone hates teams more than they love our side…. As that’d be mental. That’s a very good post with alot of good points. And you may well be right about politics playing a part in some people’s thinking with regards to foootball. As much as I hate it and don’t get it, that happens in this country and some people just cannot separate the two. What I would say to counter your argument though is that I think there are also some in our support who perceive any criticism of Celtic or someone stating a dislike of them more than Rangers as being pro-Rangers/pro-Union/pro-Orange order and (perhaps most ludicrous of all) anti catholic. I can’t speak for everyone but my dislike of Celtic is based on football, my own experiences of them and the way their supporters act and the attitudes they display. It’s not driven by politics or religion. Finally, while I have to admit that you are very much one of the posters on here whom I base my “hate Rangers more than they like Motherwell” at due to your previous posts about how you were never a fan of Stuart McCall due to your dislike of all things Rangers despite him doing well with us and how you wouldn’t want Barry Ferguson at FP watching a game never mind being involved in managing us, I have never believed that this was down to you being pro-Celtic. I just think some of your posts suggest you were a ‘Rangers hater’ first and foremost and a Motherwell supporter second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM Sadly we will never get away from the whole Celtic and Rangers thing , and the fact some of their fans label everyone in Scotland as us and them I must admit I am not biased , I don't care who beats either of them . Providing of course it is not affecting our result , or league position, was speaking to an Aberdeen fan in work recently who has exactly the same thinking Some enjoy friendly banter , others overstep the mark Lost count of the time I have been called the H*n word who can't afford the busfare Flipside of the coin I remember speaking to a Rangers fan a few years back , he said I think we should call you Timmy from now on , when I asked why Timmy ? The best response he could come up with was well anyone who doesn't support Rangers must be a Catholic , that was an eye opener moment at the way people are , he wasn't even kidding either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted Tuesday at 09:37 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:37 PM Apologies in advance, long winded post 🙂 I started going to Motherwell with my da' (because my old man was a 'Well fan when he was younger) in about 1972/3 and got my first season ticket (old main stand, 5 rows back, 5 seats in) in '75 for the start of the new 10 team premier league. A few games into the season, we played Rangers and the row in front of me was full of their fans. This was my first experience of them (aged about 12). A sat with my old man and we were sat between a couple of folk that some on here may know. Don St John, a disabled club singer and Andy Edgar (later to become Hamilton Accies photographer). Early in the game, Don called John Grieg a 'clown' and was harassed, threatened, had a punch swung at him and was told for the whole game that he was 'getting it' down the back stairs. Over the years, I've witnessed and ended up sadly getting involved in numerous and regular altercations with their fans in the main stand. Call it luck, call it whatever, but I've never actually had to deal with that kind of shit from Celtic fans. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying they don't have cunty fans as well, i've just never had to deal with any. As a result of these experiences at a young age, it gave me a really deep seated hatred of them (chuck in the 95/96 cup semi for good measure). Celtic to me are just another team that I love seeing us beat, along with any other team we play but I have to admit I get that extra wee spring in my step when we pump the currant buns. None of this has anything to do with religion or background. If I followed a team cause of where I went to school i'd be a h*n and if I followed my pals from my childhood who i played football with up the park, i'd probably, on balance, be a tim. I'm neither. I'm a Motherwell fan and have inflicted the same on my kids 🙂 I certainly don't hate Rangers more than I love Motherwell and I certainly don't have any 'sympathies' for the other lot. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackscat Posted Tuesday at 10:16 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:16 PM I was brought up in the 60s and schooled in a Rangers environment and I loved football. My first strip was a Rangers one, my first game attended was a Rangers one. I was oblivious to the other stuff around that (at first) but as I grew older and went to more games that changed, the culmination in that was a game v Hibs, sitting with my dad in the posh seats, (his bosses season tkts) while the smartly dressed guy in front with wife by his side stood up and called Pat Quinn every sweary anti catholic insult you could think of and nothing was said. I was 12 and can remember it as if it was yesterday, I never went back and drifted away from senior football until after a change of school in EK I met lads who were Well fans and found my spiritual home, 50 years later, still lifelong friends. I have a deep rooted dislike of Rangers and Celtic and everything both of them stand for. With the odd exception you cannot have a reasonable football discussion with fans of either, who view everything through their tinted glasses and cannot comprehend any other view. Deep as that feeling is I do not dislike either of them more than I love my club which stands for everything I believe in, and I believe all of us who take the harder road of supporting a 'smaller' club do so from that perspective. I honestly do not believe any Well fan hates either of the arse cheeks (detestable as they are) more than support our club; that is our overriding purpose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted Tuesday at 11:30 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:30 PM Good post Clackscat. I detest both sides of the arsecheeks and have been abused by fans of both of them equally over the years. Neither set is worse or better than the other. That said, I have good friends who support both of them and are reasonable in their views. However much I detest them, that emotion doesn't come anywhere near matching my love for the Well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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