Kilmarnock V Motherwell 5 April 2025

[wellgirl]

Just now, Spit_It_Out said:

Yep I can see them winning again cause our shit show today will have done wonders for them.

Question is can you see Motherwell winning again cause I can't lol.

We have no fight in us and no idea what we are doing.I think alot of these players have checked out a couple are still  arsed but majority are over and out.

That's not good enough. They have no right to be over and out when we are possibly looking at relegation. 

 

[El Grew]

FFS yes we beat Rangers but who hasn’t this season!!

I never thought I’d feel like this about the team I’ve supported since I went to school over the back of the John Hunter Stand but I really can’t be arsed watching this present shower of shite!

[Wellsince1976]

I`m usually glass half full, but looking at that table tonight and the shower of losers in that team gives me the total fear.

[Spit_It_Out]

13 minutes ago, El Grew said:

FFS yes we beat Rangers but who hasn’t this season!!

I never thought I’d feel like this about the team I’ve supported since I went to school over the back of the John Hunter Stand but I really can’t be arsed watching this present shower of shite!

It was the football we played that day not matter if it was Rangers or St Johnstone we looked like we were working on something and something we could all see and get behind.

Fast forward a few weeks and you would think Kettlewell was still picking the team cause that was another Kettlewell esq performance.

 

 

[FirParkCornerExile]

Just now, Spit_It_Out said:

It was the football we played that day not matter if it was Rangers or St Johnstone we looked like we were working on something and something we could all see.l get behind.

Fast forward a few weeks and you would think Kettlewell was still picking the team cause that was another Kettlewell esq performance.

 

 

The most worrying part is we played exactly the same way against Aberdeen and St Mirren , we are utter garbage.

[Spiderpig]

11 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

That's not good enough. They have no right to be over and out when we are possibly looking at relegation. 

 

The out of contract players, and especially loan players don't give a shit whether we are relegated they will end up back at their parents clubs to see out whatever time they have left on those contracts. 

The players we retain and whoever we bring in will be left to sort out the mess the club is in over the summer .

[wellgirl]

8 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

The out of contract players, and especially loan players don't give a shit whether we are relegated they will end up back at their parents clubs to see out whatever time they have left on those contracts. 

The players we retain and whoever we bring in will be left to sort out the mess the club is in over the summer .

They can go now then if that's the case. I'd rather see us go down with a team of players that want to play for the club and youth players than players who don't care.

[MJC]

Next week is already a write off imo. Hearts will have their sights firmly set on securing top six and we don’t have the quality to get a result against them. *
 

So it’s going to come down to the post split fixtures and at the moment it’s hard to see us getting any sort of momentum or even a positive result with the squad of players we have. 
 

The playoffs are a serious possibility. 

 

* I know we won 3-1 against them back in August but that was a long time ago and things have changed since then. Hearts have improved significantly and we have been dismal for months.

[FirParkCornerExile]

9 minutes ago, MJC said:

Next week is already a write off imo. Hearts will have their sights firmly set on securing top six and we don’t have the quality to get a result against them. *
 

So it’s going to come down to the post split fixtures and at the moment it’s hard to see us getting any sort of momentum or even a positive result with the squad of players we have. 
 

The playoffs are a serious possibility. 

 

* I know we won 3-1 against them back in August but that was a long time ago and things have changed since then. Hearts have improved significantly and we have been dismal for months.

Hearts will secure top 6 tomorrow , and we are in for a real struggle to stay out of the play off spot.

[gaz7]

Win next week which could happen as league is so up and down and we could be at least 6pts  in front of killie ross c and dundee who are all away from home to celtic stmirren and hibs.

Today was poor and pitch was always going to sort that out but sending off sealed it but cmon I'd rather be in our position than any of those below.

Looks like an interesting last 6 games and when the going gets tough? Well we can actually say based on last 40 years we will be there.

[stv]

46 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

They can go now then if that's the case. I'd rather see us go down with a team of players that want to play for the club and youth players than players who don't care.

Nah.

[wellgirl]

Just now, stv said:

Nah.

Whatever 

[Mortonhallwell]

1 hour ago, Orinoco said:

Nothing positive about today. Clueless . Total re think about our formation and approach to games is required.

The club should reimburse all our traveling support today.

We need winners in the team. Players who will roll up their sleeves and battle. To many hiding.

That's what worries me. We have no winners or battlers in our team. What I would give for a Peter Hartley or a Keith Lasley. The present duds have no battling qualities whatsoever and I fear for us when we come up against St Mirren, Dundee or even St Johnstone in the bottom 6. These teams have players who are not afraid to get stuck in and battle. We don't. 

[wellgirl]

1 minute ago, Mortonhallwell said:

That's what worries me. We have no winners or battlers in our team. What I would give for a Peter Hartley or a Keith Lasley. The present duds have no battling qualities whatsoever and I fear for us when we come up against St Mirren, Dundee or even St Johnstone in the bottom 6. These teams have players who are not afraid to get stuck in and battle. We don't. 

You don't think Slattery is a battler. Or Miller who is going to be sold at the end of the season for a fortune? Get your point but it's not all of them 

[stv]

18 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Whatever 

Another Nah I'm afraid.

And i would rather we stayed up anyway possible . With whatever players

[wellgirl]

Just now, stv said:

Another Nah I'm afraid.

And i would rather we stayed up anyway possible . With whatever players

 So would I but having seen the performance at Aberdeen I'm doubtful that this set of players have the heart to keep us out of a relegation battle 

[Mortonhallwell]

6 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

You don't think Slattery is a battler. Or Miller who is going to be sold at the end of the season for a fortune? Get your point but it's not all of them 

Perhaps Slattery could be called a battler but Miller? His game is not about getting stuck in and fighting for the ball. Indeed his performances have really dropped off and prospective clubs must be thinking twice about paying serious money for him.

[wellfan]

On 3/30/2025 at 11:10 AM, wellfan said:

Oh, look, our next game is against a team coming off the back of a terrible result and in desperate need of a win. 

We all know what happens next. 

Useless shitebags. I hope Wimmer tears them all in half. 

[wellgirl]

7 minutes ago, Mortonhallwell said:

Perhaps Slattery could be called a battler but Miller? His game is not about getting stuck in and fighting for the ball. Indeed his performances have really dropped off and prospective clubs must be thinking twice about paying serious money for him.

I do agree that Miller hasn't been playing as well lately - maybe because of the injury? His stats are really good though over the piece. I don't know. Maybe it's a confidence thing. When the heads go down at Motherwell it seems to affect the entire team 

[wunderwell]

The much maligned Davor should come in to the team, allowing our other midfielders to push up.

The Carlisle forums were an interesting read at the time we signed Armstrong. They are having an awful season and much down to the 1 up front tactics that Armstrong was faced with down there. They felt he could operate better in a two.

We spend too much time adapting players to a failed system instead of playing to people strengths.

Maswanhise was terrifying at first playing wide of the central striker (then Robinson)

Wilson lost all confidence - Kaleta lost all confidence. They are not bad players but they were hung out to dry by Kettlewell.

[Spit_It_Out]

We are relying on teams to be much shitter than us cause this team has not got a win in them I really dont think they have got what it takes to actually pull up there socks and get us out the mess by performances.

I have never ever in all the dire times we have had never had such a disconnect from a Motherwell team as I have with this one this season soon as we started signing yer Tony Watts and Javier Taveras that was the writing on the wall for me.

I shall say this I went more to Fir Park when I lived in Germany and when I lived down the bottom of England than I have this season but the round trip of 80 plus  miles on public transport to watch these players nah not not for me might go back next season I shall wait see what happens in the summer window.

Sorry for the rant peeps I try to be positive I can accept defeat but there is defeat with pride and fight but this squad beach towels  and the Louis Veitton wash bags packed no fight in them.

[wellsince75]

Just watched the highlights - Ox needs to come back , keeper made a few saves but poor for both goals . 

in fairness most of the team could be dropped - pathetic performance today. 

hope we challenge the red card - I can’t see what the ref was thinking that this was deliberate foul play 

 

[joewarkfanclub]

That was totally unacceptable today.

Im not sure what has happened to Wimmer, but for the second, maybe third week in a row, there was no intensity, no high ball wins, nothing to suggest that his coaching has turned the corner for us.

The red card was a shocking decision, but if we are honest we were already one down and probably should have been 2 down.

We showed no ability to get in behind them with 11 men so when we were down to 10, the writing was on the wall.

To make no changes at half time was shocking to me, and when we lost the second goal from a poorly defended set piece it was game over.

I was initially enthused by Wimmer coming in, but the last few weeks has me wondering whether he really does have something to offer, or whether it was just the new manager bounce which has now passed.

The manager needs to be ruthless now. Those not performing need axed. He has a sufficient "picture" of the players to make the tough decisions.

We are now in a dogfight. He needs to choose his dogs wisely.....

 

[Spit_It_Out]

19 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

That was totally unacceptable today.

Im not sure what has happened to Wimmer, but for the second, maybe third week in a row, there was no intensity, no high ball wins, nothing to suggest that his coaching has turned the corner for us.

The red card was a shocking decision, but if we are honest we were already one down and probably should have been 2 down.

We showed no ability to get in behind them with 11 men so when we were down to 10, the writing was on the wall.

To make no changes at half time was shocking to me, and when we lost the second goal from a poorly defended set piece it was game over.

I was initially enthused by Wimmer coming in, but the last few weeks has me wondering whether he really does have something to offer, or whether it was just the new manager bounce which has now passed.

The manager needs to be ruthless now. Those not performing need axed. He has a sufficient "picture" of the players to make the tough decisions.

We are now in a dogfight. He needs to choose his dogs wisely.....

 

This three at the back and one striker up front is honestly so like Kettlewell it's just a waste of time I struggle now to see what we are actually trying to do.

And I hate to be negative about Wimmer and no I am not wanting him sacked but where is the plan B?Cause sure as fek plan A is really isn't cutting it.

It's really not good they had all that time to work on things from not being in the cup and international break and we have got worse.

Christ is his messages getting over clear enough cause the drop off from the Dundee and Rangers games is something else.

 

[mfc]

11 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

This three at the back and one striker up front is honestly so like Kettlewell it's just a waste of time I struggle now to see what we are actually trying to do.

And I hate to be negative about Wimmer and no I am not wanting him sacked but where is the plan B?Cause sure as fek plan A is really isn't cutting it.

It's really not good they had all that time to work on things from not being in the cup and international break and we have got worse.

Christ is his messages getting over clear enough cause the drop off from the Dundee and Rangers games is something else.

 

Aye the three at the back and one up front still wouldn't work even if we had guardiola in the dug out.from back to front were a mess,again today piss poor goals conceded and no goal threat whatsoever,we can't defend,no width,pace,creativity,we've amassed such a one dimensional squad it really is unbelievable.lets just hope today was the final straw for wimmer and he comes up with something for next week cause if it's same again,we already know that we're playing right into hearts hands before a ball is kicked.