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Kilmarnock V Motherwell 5 April 2025


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39 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

I’m still not sure what they seen to merit a red card, other than a superb piece of acting from the Killie player. 

A player getting injured (or feigning injury) does not in itself automatically mean a foul has been committed. Even less so once the incident is reviewed by VAR. It’s a contact sport and collisions etc happen all the time, and most of these are not caused by illegal play.

What we’re seeing with refs and VAR now is a total misunderstanding of the game and constant power trips by incompetent buffoons who are never held to account for their continual mistakes.

The game is fucked because of shite refs and an even worse application of VAR. 

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1 hour ago, wellfan said:

A player getting injured (or feigning injury) does not in itself automatically mean a foul has been committed. Even less so once the incident is reviewed by VAR. It’s a contact sport and collisions etc happen all the time, and most of these are not caused by illegal play.

What we’re seeing with refs and VAR now is a total misunderstanding of the game and constant power trips by incompetent buffoons who are never held to account for their continual mistakes.

The game is fucked because of shite refs and an even worse application of VAR. 

I think this is so true.

Very telling on Ref Watch today that the studio  ex referee defended the red card, but the two ex players felt it was very harsh. Referees and players are so far apart in their understanding of the game. For that reason I expect Collum to support the red card and our appeal chances to be 50/50 at best. 

Saturday also highlighted another issue with VAR. Having looked at the replay of the Thompson red, Dallas thankfully intervened. But he is not allowed to recommend a yellow for Armstrong. Not saying VAR should intervene for yellow cards, but where a review is already taking place because of a red card, surely the actions of all involved in an incident should be open to some sort of punishment. That's twice red cards for Motherwell players this season following a clash with Armstrong have been ruled incorrect. Coincidence?

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20 minutes ago, dennyc said:

Saturday also highlighted another issue with VAR. Having looked at the replay of the Thompson red, Dallas thankfully intervened. But he is not allowed to recommend a yellow for Armstrong. Not saying VAR should intervene for yellow cards, but where a review is already taking place because of a red card, surely the actions of all involved in an incident should be open to some sort of punishment. That's twice red cards for Motherwell players this season following a clash with Armstrong have been ruled incorrect. Coincidence?

Excellent comments. Thre's far too much cheating going on in the game, and we're not blameless ourselves.  However the SFA ought to be taking an active interest in Armstrong and his manager given that he's been involved in at least two unsavoury and similar incidents this season. Such behaviour has implications for the offended party; their family; and club in terms of loss of earnings and availability. A polite, but stern, letter from the beaks to the Killie Chairman warning him that they're watching Armstrong and McInnes wouldn't go amiss.  Will that happen - No. Its also up to the media to call this out - will that happen - No.

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5 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

Excellent comments. Thre's far too much cheating going on in the game, and we're not blameless ourselves.  However the SFA ought to be taking an active interest in Armstrong and his manager given that he's been involved in at least two unsavoury and similar incidents this season. Such behaviour has implications for the offended party; their family; and club in terms of loss of earnings and availability. A polite, but stern, letter from the beaks to the Killie Chairman warning him that they're watching Armstrong and McInnes wouldn't go amiss.  Will that happen - No. Its also up to the media to call this out - will that happen - No.

Craigan and some of the other pundits called it out on Sportsound on Saturday night. They were all unanimous in the fact it wasnt a red card for Balmer and Craigan and Kenny McIntyre called out Armstrong and some of the other Killie players for their behaviour during the Thompson incident. Whether that will make any difference with the appeal or any future conduct is another matter.....

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