El Grew Posted Tuesday at 01:20 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:20 PM This may or may not be a hypothetical question, but In the event that we do end up being relegated, will Wimmer stay or does he have an exit clause in his contract to cover for such an eventuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Unless Wimmer chooses to share his contract details with the media, that will be confidential. However, as anyone can resign at any time, he wouldn't really need an exit clause - it would just be a matter of negotiating the details for leaving. Ditto for sacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted Tuesday at 03:17 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:17 PM If we are relegated he will go, Iām pretty certain of that. It may well be on his own terms or a mutual agreement but heāll be gone at the end of the season if we are no longer in the top flight imo. I actually suspect that he might go in the summer regardless of what league we are in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM 55 minutes ago, MJC said: . I actually suspect that he might go in the summer regardless of what league we are in. I actually think this as well. Iām not sure why I just donāt see him as a long term Motherwell manager. I hope Iām wrong and I hope we win on Saturday and stay in the top 6 and he stays but just something is niggling away thinking he wonāt be. The fact his family arenāt coming over worries me, family is the main thing for people and if things donāt go well they are the first people to help you out. I know Alexanderās family and Mcghees were both down south but that was just a few hours in the car or an hours flight, the ar5e end of Germany is a big trickier to make a quick trip to see his young kids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM I don't think we'll go down but if we do get relegated from here it's hard not to see it as a pretty massive failure on his part, I'm not sure there'd be much justification for keeping him on at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Why on earth we even discussing this? Jeez guy only been in door 2 months and inherited a huge mess left by that previous person.Ā 7 games left and come 5.00 Saturday might even be in top 6. See if we are 11th with say 2 games left then I will worry. Positive vibes folks 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM 3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Why on earth we even discussing this? Jeez guy only been in door 2 months and inherited a huge mess left by that previous person.Ā 7 games left and come 5.00 Saturday might even be in top 6. See if we are 11th with say 2 games left then I will worry. Positive vibes folks I agree. I don't see why he would be leaving if we stay up or go down. He surely knew how badly Motherwell were struggling before he took the job. He clearly wanted the challengeĀ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted Tuesday at 04:54 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:54 PM 15 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Why on earth we even discussing this? Jeez guy only been in door 2 months and inherited a huge mess left by that previous person.Ā 7 games left and come 5.00 Saturday might even be in top 6. See if we are 11th with say 2 games left then I will worry. Positive vibes folks It's normally @grizzlygĀ who's cracking the jokes but thankfully he's the voice of reason.Ā The position we're in is not Wimmers Ā fault but it is his problem to solve. He came in after the window and needs time, possibly years to sort out the mess. Irrespective of how we finish the season , the time for judgment is much longer in the future.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 05:19 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:19 PM 25 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: It's normally @grizzlygĀ who's cracking the jokes but thankfully he's the voice of reason.Ā The position we're in is not Wimmers Ā fault but it is his problem to solve. He came in after the window and needs time, possibly years to sort out the mess. Irrespective of how we finish the season , the time for judgment is much longer in the future.Ā Don't think it will take years.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted Tuesday at 06:33 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:33 PM 1 hour ago, wellsince75 said: It's normally @grizzlygĀ who's cracking the jokes but thankfully he's the voice of reason.Ā The position we're in is not Wimmers Ā fault but it is his problem to solve. He came in after the window and needs time, possibly years to sort out the mess. Irrespective of how we finish the season , the time for judgment is much longer in the future.Ā Aye, Iāve said several times that itāll take him at least 18 months to sort out the mess heās inherited. But thatās only if heās got it in him to do so.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted Tuesday at 06:38 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:38 PM 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Why on earth we even discussing this? Because I think he might well chuck it in the summer. Based on nothing mind you, just a hunch but as I said yesterday this just doesnāt feel like a long term tenure.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Just now, MJC said: Because I think he might well to chuck it in the summer. Based on nothing mind you, just a hunch but as I said yesterday this just doesnāt feel like a long term tenure.Ā Why would he in your opinion just out of interestĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted Tuesday at 06:48 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:48 PM 6 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Why would he in your opinion just out of interestĀ Because heās a foreign coach with very little understanding of Scottish football (and thatās not a slight on him, itās just what it is) and he inherited an absolute shit show from his predecessor. Like I said itās just a hunch and I could be totally wrong but I just donāt see Michael Wimmer being here long term.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted Tuesday at 06:55 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:55 PM Is the hall of the dammed still active as this thread needs condemned to it ASAP. Ā 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 06:55 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:55 PM 6 minutes ago, MJC said: Because heās a foreign coach with very little understanding of Scottish football (and thatās not a slight on him, itās just what it is) and he inherited an absolute shit show from his predecessor. Like I said itās just a hunch and I could be totally wrong but I just donāt see Michael Wimmer being here long term.Ā I get that but surely he did his homework before he came here and knew we were struggling. I'll be sorry if he goes. The last thing we need is yet another new manager.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 07:14 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:14 PM 18 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Is the hall of the dammed still active as this thread needs condemned to it ASAP. Ā ThisĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM 4 hours ago, MJC said: If we are relegated he will go, Iām pretty certain of that. It may well be on his own terms or a mutual agreement but heāll be gone at the end of the season if we are no longer in the top flight imo. I actually suspect that he might go in the summer regardless of what league we are in. This is my hunch too. I just canāt see him being around for long and at best may last until Oct/Nov.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted Tuesday at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:38 PM 49 minutes ago, MJC said: Because heās a foreign coach with very little understanding of Scottish football (and thatās not a slight on him, itās just what it is) and he inherited an absolute shit show from his predecessor. Like I said itās just a hunch and I could be totally wrong but I just donāt see Michael Wimmer being here long term.Ā Far too early to judge pal. There would have been a lot of discussions before he took over so I am quite sure he knows this will be a long term project.Ā Ā Let's just see how it pans out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 08:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:12 PM 43 minutes ago, Lobey_Dosser said: This is my hunch too. I just canāt see him being around for long and at best may last until Oct/Nov.Ā I don't understand why people are saying this - would it be different if we were winning. Why would he take a 6 month job? Are people thinking the same about Simo?Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted Tuesday at 08:14 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:14 PM I think it depends a lot on the background of the way we run our club. I am so intrigued on how players are signed and how much say Wimmer has or even Kettlewell had on this. If we continue in the same vein and sign crocks from Ross County (who wimmer will be unaware of) I am fairly sure that the pain will continue. Could we see some input from the manager from abroad? I always liked the Hearts under Romanov raiding the Slovak and Lithuanian leagues (not highly paid) and promoting our youths. I am done with journeymen from Scotland & guys who can't get a game for lower league English sides. McGhee is a first team player at Dundee and I am ok with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM I see we're still going with the old "foreign coach doesn't understand our game" stuff, eh? Even in 2025. Astounding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted Tuesday at 08:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:28 PM 3 minutes ago, David said: I see we're still going with the old "foreign coach doesn't understand our game" stuff, eh? Even in 2025. Astounding. š¤£š¤£.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM Maybe others are picking up on something that I have not , I haven't had any vibes Michael Wimmer is here just for a short term but who knows It could turn out to be the case of course, but it hasn't crossed my mindĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM This season has been a shit show from poor recruitment to a raft of injuries to then more poor short term signings to cover those injuries to then changing manager,it's a miracle were not in a worse position in the league,hopefully a bit of positivity around fir park on Saturday can help to get a big 3 points.on wimmer,he has been left with a shambles to sort through and it's hardly been a surprise that's it's been up and down since he came in,he will be learning all the time and is very close to being able to clear the decks and start to put a squad together that will be in line with his thinking.im happy that we took a chance on him too see what he can do rather than any of the usual hangers on that blight scottish football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM It's threads like this that give ammunition to the posters over on P&B who like to look in here occasionally then point and laugh at how wild SO is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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