Haggischomper Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Thank god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Heathen. Olbermann's show is the only reason I ever watch MSNBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafficlight Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Does it look likely they will retain SPL coverage? We'll keep it if so, because when we first subscribed they didn't have the EPL anyway. Mrs T and I like to keep up with the SPL and the occasional 'Well match they cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I'm reluctant to cancel just now in case they do survive. I'd say it's nigh-on impossible for them to do so now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewiechaval Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 click Don't know if link will work. Seems they defaulted on £60 million to the Premier League, going back as far as november and will go into admin tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Kerse Posted June 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 If I was them, I would just get rid of that woeful excuse of a news channel, sack Stuart Lovell and Jim Delahunt then the books would look a lot better and they might be a viable option to continue. One of the reasons they are in the mire, setting up their news channel ate up LOTS of valuble capital and was clearly extremely short sighted in that they would NEVER come close to competing with Sky Sports News - which you get on freeview anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 They should also abandon the attempt at running a show like Gillete Soccer Saturday. It is very poor in comparison. Hopefully Setanta can survive through this huge setback but it aint looking good. Hopefully we can get another package in place for next season. This country needs tv money in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmcd Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 i think setanta will go as they cannot keep going losing money but i think the bbc or chanel 5 may bid for it but it may be for less money than we are getting at the moment just need to wait and see what happens this week but it doesnt look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 One of the reasons they are in the mire, setting up their news channel ate up LOTS of valuble capital and was clearly extremely short sighted in that they would NEVER come close to competing with Sky Sports News - which you get on freeview anyway. Virgin TV were complaining about the charges from Sky and decided not to pay the extortionate amounts Sky were asking for their Premium Channels. Thus Virgin customers did not get Sky Sports News or Sky Sports One for several months. This also led to Sky putting some Champions league matches on both those channels purely to stick two fingers up to Virgin and their customers. At the same time pestering Virgin customers to switch to Sky. This encouraged setanta to bring forward their plans for a Sportsd News channel and Virgin promoted it for weeks leading up to it's first broadcast, and believe me when you haven't had a news channel for months it was more than welcome. However, Sky were quick to settle their problems with Virgin and we quickly got Sky Sports news back, people quickly returned to what they were used to signalling the beginning of the end for Setanta. Call me a cynic but I believe Sky baited the hook and reeled them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Call me a cynic but I believe Sky baited the hook and reeled them in. Although could be a reason but another and the accepted one was BSkyB were going to lose out on the UKTV channels including Gold, Living, H&L, Bravo and Hallmark amongst others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Changing channels: SPL ready to line up new television deal The SPL are preparing to pull the plug on troubled broadcaster Setanta today to secure a lucrative new television deal with either Sky or ESPN. Scotland's top-flight have been involved in delicate negotiations for weeks in a bid to prevent their clubs going into financial meltdown as the Irish-based company hurtles towards administration. Unless Setanta are saved at the eleventh hour, an announcement on a new deal is expected this week. Sportsmail has learned that Disney-owned ESPN are willing to pay £112.5million to conclude a four-year deal and Sky up to £87.5m. Changing channels: The SPL are set to follow the English Premier League's lead and drop their deal with troubled pay TV broadcasters Setanta Sports Setanta's outlay for the same period was £125m, but they are now close to collapse following the English Premier League's decision to terminate their contract with immediate effect. Despite Sky's offer being lower than ESPN's, the Rupert Murdoch-owned company could still offer better exposure for the Scottish game. It leaves the SPL in a similar position to last summer, when Rangers, Celtic and Aberdeen all favoured a deal with Sky during television rights negotiations, while the rest of the top 12 clubs opted to extend the Setanta contract for four years to 2010. Friday's collapse of US tycoon Len Blavatnik's £20m rescue plan for Setanta appears to have sounded the death knell for the broadcasters, and they could go into administration as early as today. The SPL have already had to bail out clubs to the tune of £3m after Setanta missed the final payment of last season's agreement. But the league remain confident that Setanta's demise will not trigger catastrophic effects for their cash-starved clubs. 'This Setanta crisis has been going on for weeks now and it would have been negligent for the Premier League to sit back and do nothing behind the scenes during this time,' a senior Scottish football source told Sportsmail. 'The problem is that you can't go public when you already have a deal in place with Setanta. But the truth is that talks have been ongoing with two major television companies over the past four weeks. 'We should be hearing an announcement on that within the next week. Nobody is holding out any hope for Setanta,' he said. Bidding closes today in the auction for the 46-game package that Setanta held with the English Premier League. Sky and ESPN are expected to split them down the middle. The same broadcasters will then compete for the rights to show live SPL matches, with no terrestrial broadcaster believed to be willing, nor able, to find the funds to screen Scottish football. What is unclear is how Sky, if they take over the contract, would fit Scottish fixtures into an already packed schedule of football games. Asked whether ESPN would bid for the SPL packages, spokesman Damion Potter said yesterday: 'It's a hypothetical situation as those rights are not available.' In other news, Livingston today face slipping into administration for the second time in the club's short 14-year history if chairman Angelo Massone fails to settle a £10,000 rent payment with West Lothian Council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 If ESPN won the rights, would they be pay-per-view, subscription or free-to-air (well, free once you've paid your Sky subscription)? I'll be happy if we just go back to Sky. It'll be funny watching Charlie Nicholas pretend to know which two teams are actually playing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain7_mfc Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Tbh i'd rather go back to SKY aswell. Like it says in the article it will offer better exposure of the Scottish game. Setanta's coverage was pish while SKY were always a step ahead of them when it came to the build up of games etc. Bring back Jim White and Champagne Charlie! And also the 5 past 6 kick off's on a Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic2904 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I would think that ESPN will sort a deal with Setanta, if they get the rights. Unless they are trying to use this confusion to establish another Channell, maybe even a stand-alone pay-tv. Co-incidently (spelling?!) ESPNA had a Free-to-air weekend, there have always been talks about ESPNA joining Sky as Sky already shows ESPN Classics, which could lead to ESPN showing SPL via Sky, which would mean that Setanta is done and dusted (if they are not already anyway) We had different thing going on in Germnay with the Bundesliga rights and stuff. You can not imagine what is happening behind closed doors... So be aware for a nice surprise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Tbh i'd rather go back to SKY aswell. I wouldn't ... costs me an extra 20 quid a month (i.e. doubles my cable subscription fee) to get Sky Sports here compared to the package that includes Setanta, and there's no way I'm paying them that just to watch us get humped by Rangers or Celtic once every couple of months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmcd Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Looks like another nail in the coffin of setanta as the SPL confirm that they are actively persuing a new broadcaster for season 2009/10 and beyond after setanta failed to meet an extended deadline to pay the £3m it was due to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watford Well Boy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 cancel those direct debits.The SPL have terminated their contract with Setanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic2904 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I am currently trying to call them. I know I have a 12 months agreement, but based on different programming. As they dont have the EPL and SPL anymore, that should be enough for a breach of contract, shouldnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megastar Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 http://www.setanta.com/cancel you can do it on line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic2904 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 http://www.setanta.com/cancel you can do it on line Great, Thanks! Just completed it. I feel sorry for NASN though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky79 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I can't see Sky doing anything other than using SPL as filler. Take the extra ESPN money, at least unlike Setanta they not likely to go into meltdown. Don't really care if I don't have the channel, no doubt BBC or STV will negociate some highlights package like they have up unti lnow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic2904 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Well, they could slot the 1 game in on a Saturday 3ish, or maybe saturday 5ish.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Kerse Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Well, they could slot the 1 game in on a Saturday 3ish, or maybe saturday 5ish.... Can't. EU/UEFA some beaurocratic leg saying NO game can be screelned live at 3pm on a saturday except special circumstances (Cup finals etc..). Quite right too. Sat 5ish will be the Setanta slot that Sky will pick up to show Man U games from Old Trafford. We will be looking at Friday night, Sunday Night or 11 AM on Sunday morning (lots of Euro games play then - God won't be happy but all we have) We WILL be a schedule filler on SKy - apart from OF games and we will have to take what we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky79 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Sure they'll find a slot but pretty sure it can't be saturday 3ish. The early saturday evening slot a possibility, setanta had a lot of those games but SKY look likely to pick up one batch of the two packages setanta lost so sunday lunchtime might be the place. Possibly tweaking there sunday layout, who knows. Don't care all that much, though less disruption the better, I'd rather we pocketed the substantial difference in cash ESPN seem to be offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic2904 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I never knew about the 3pm slot? Any reason for that? I can only tell that this is the most viwed slot for live games in Germany! As per STV it seems that Sky are favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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