Kmcalpin Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 If we were to have sacked both then I am quite sure they would have been entitled to the remainder of their contract - dependant on specific terms of course. That being the case then I would expect that in return we should be due the exact same which I would put at a minumum £200k PA. You would have to imagine that MM was on £150-£200k and SL on £75-£100k. So if it is true that skinflint Miller and Milne were trying to get away with £100k. Brass neck or what - chancing Arabs. Put up or shut up Aberdeen and stop wasting all our time. Good post Welldaft. If there was a difference of course then MMcG & SL could always buy out their contracts and make up the difference. If they simply resigned then I'd guess MFC could sue them both for breach of contract. I don't doubt Aberdeen are quibbling over a few thousand pounds. They're quite capable of pleading poverty and then forking out big fees or salaries for players. If they want our management team then they pay the going rate end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Maybe if we threw in a toaster it would sweeten the deal enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I reckon he's hedging his bets, Sellik are stumbling over compensation for Mowbray and he probably reckons still got an outside shot at that job. This is just a ridiculous situation. We are less than a month away from playing a European fixture, we have a threadbare squad in urgent need of reinforcements, players likely to be leaving and a manager who is sitting, biding his time to see if he can land one particular job if someone else doesn't get it, and if not then he's going to another job at another club. Nearly a whole week has passed by with McGhee being "poised to be named as new Aberdeen manager" while Celtic "battle it out with West Brom over compensation" and we are no further forward than we were last Friday. It's as obvious as the nose on the end of your face that McGhee has no intention of signing for Aberdeen until the Celtic manager's position is filled and he still has a chance, no matter how outside, of landing that job, and that he also has no intentions of staying here if either one of those jobs becomes available to him. Fair fucks to McGhee, he has played Motherwell FC like fucking mugs and done a great job at it, from getting a payrise over his flirtations with the Hearts job last year to leaving us in no man's land this year. I tell you what, if both of those moves fell through for him, I don't think he'd think twice about 'hanging on' at Fir Park until his next potential move came up for him. The man has absolutely no interest in anyone but himself. MJC puts it far more elequently don't you think , NAIL HEAD HIT though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 All this pessimism assumes that JB hasn't made approaches to any targets. I'm guessing he has and we won't be without a manager for very long. I'm 100% sure McGhee is away, and I'm sure JB is working on the same assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav212 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 If the Aberdeen move falls through, sack the bastard. You can get yourself to fuck McGhee, enough mucking the club and its supporters around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 The Press and Journal have reported for the past 2 days that "the wait is over" how many conecutive days can they rehash te same story ? http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/SectionPa...rt/PJAberdeenFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 However - I think it's time to hunt the both of them - they've known the job at Motherwell for a long time and fully understood the financial constraints and their implications. Part of the reason that we aren't bringing in players are their new improved salaries plus things like Bob Malcolms salary. There not entirely to blame for MFC's financial weakness in the transfer market - however they contribute / have contributed to that position. What I'm trying to say in a roundabout way is that if they want to fuck off for a slightly bigger football budget at a slightly bigger club then that's what they should do and fair play to them. They shouldn't turn it round on the financial budget at MFC when they knew fine well what the position has been for a long time. I'm not interested in who MMcG rates - we'll sort it ourselves. Couldn't have put it better myself. The financial restraints at Motherwell weren't on their minds last summer when they doubled their salaries. If McGhee tries to blame that for his leaving, he's a joke. Not that he'll need to justify it, his pals in the media never ask him the tough questions. Oh, and aye, stick yer recommendations up yer arse, McGhee. You recommended we give Bob Malcolm a contract. I recommend you sign the fat bastard for Aberdeen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Did he blame the financial situation at Motherwell for wanting to leave or is that just another unsourced rumour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Did he blame the financial situation at Motherwell for wanting to leave or is that just another unsourced rumour? Just going on the post that garymurdoch made which seemed quite specific. And I carefully put 'if he tries to blame'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I wasn't having a dig at you mate, it was an honest question. I have seen so many 'reliable sources' on here that are posting so many different 'certainties' from insiders I was wondering if there had been any actual quotes from the man himself. I missed a lot of the press when I was on holiday last week, so wasn't sure if that was an official line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I wasn't having a dig at you mate, it was an honest question. I have seen so many 'reliable sources' on here that are posting so many different 'certainties' from insiders I was wondering if there had been any actual quotes from the man himself. I missed a lot of the press when I was on holiday last week, so wasn't sure if that was an official line. Point taken, though, mate. Only reason the post regarding him having enough of having no money caught my eye was because it was very specific about being outbid by Gillingham (I'm assuming the lad Beevers?) and the mention of a managerial candidate right out of leftfield (Kevin Dillon). I think everyone would like an end to the speculation and rumour so we could move forward and know who was going to be the man in charge next year. Though speculation and rumour are certainly ensuring that, as short as our close season was going to be, it's not been a dull one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinkydink Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 The Sun's now saying the 200k is a specific clause in McGhee's contract, and that the sheep are looking to pay less than half that amount... Clicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwellhighland Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Am I not right in saying that McGhee never took a 2nd man with him to a new club? I'm sure I read that when he took Leitch as his assistant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 McGhee made the comment that he didn't like putting people out of work hence not taking anyone with him. On this occassion there is no-one to put out of work. He has to build the backroom staff himself. Hence the easy option of taking Leitchy with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 The Sun's now saying the 200k is a specific clause in McGhee's contract, and that the sheep are looking to pay less than half that amount... This isn't the Barras, Boyle should tell Milne, the price is marked on everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteelman Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I can't believe this isn't sorted yet. I was hoping we would have a new manager by now. Say we don't have a new manager in time to prepare for the European game, who would take over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Say we don't have a new manager in time to prepare for the European game, who would take over? I'm guessing, and it is only a guess, Gordon Young. Which is fine because given the shallowness of the squad, the entire bench could be U19s he was coaching last season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Sheepymeh fans are accusing Boyle of being at it and being tight-ersed with cash. We are a wee diddy club and should just roll over and let them rip the pish out of us. That 1983 attitude is alive and well up North. Some even accuse Boyle of being a very bad businessman who hasn't got a clue what he is doing (a guy who built Direct Holidays from nothing and made over £70 million from selling it, I know Zoom went bust but that was at the very start of when things globally were going wrong). £200,000 is the value of the contract if you want to get him, as has been said, you wouldn't go into Argos/Comet/wherever and try to haggle would you? As has also been said, though, McGhee's position is untenable now. He can't come back and be our Manager now, one way or another he simply has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 So according to the Sun Mark McGhee has a £200k compensation clause built in to his contract. I'd like to know what that means exactly. It could mean various things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 As has also been said, though, McGhee's position is untenable now. He can't come back and be our Manager now, one way or another he simply has to go. Sadly, Ricky, I reckon that's what Aberdeen are banking on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 So according to the Sun Mark McGhee has a £200k compensation clause built in to his contract. I'd like to know what that means exactly. It could mean various things. I heard about this really early doors (post Romanovgate) - that there was a clause where he would be allowed to be released from his contract with the club if one of a number of teams offered him a position. it was said somewhere else that the teams were named (although that might be just a bit too messy) basically he moves nowhere during this contract unless the new club or himself pays Motherwell 200K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 basically he moves nowhere during this contract unless the new club or himself pays Motherwell 200K. I wondered about that. So what that would imply is that if he was at the start of a long contract he'd go the cheap but if at the end of a short one MFC would be guaranteed a fair sum. No mention of the Scott Leitch element then? If true then it would appear to be clear cut. IF the Dons won't stump up the full amount he could make up the difference himself if he's so depserate to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I heard about this really early doors (post Romanovgate) - that there was a clause where he would be allowed to be released from his contract with the club if one of a number of teams offered him a position. it was said somewhere else that the teams were named (although that might be just a bit too messy) basically he moves nowhere during this contract unless the new club or himself pays Motherwell 200K. So why should it take so long? That's a 1 min conversation. Boyle- ' Will you pay the 200K comp?' Milne/Miller- 'No' Boyle- ' Ok see ya' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 So why should it take so long? That's a 1 min conversation. Boyle- ' Will you pay the 200K comp?' Milne/Miller- 'No' Boyle- ' Ok see ya' Problem being that, we don't really want him and they do. They're using that fact to try and haggle here. What should have happened is that when Aberdeen first made their 'official' approach to Motherwell to ask permission to talk to him, the compensation issue should have been ironed out then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 So why should it take so long? That's a 1 min conversation. Boyle- ' Will you pay the 200K comp?' Milne/Miller- 'No' Boyle- ' Ok see ya' Yo would have thought so star sail Aberdeen will be looking to pay around 50%, hoping that JB compromises a bit and, fuck it if there's a gap in the middle maybe McGhee will make that up out of his own pocket. As Melvin and a few others have said - it's getting to the point where we HAVE to shift McGhee - as there is no way back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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