Special aka Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Casey's pic from St Mirren cup-tie in 1977. A very tightly packed Fir Park that day with the 'official' attendance given at just under 27,000. "No way", said my old-man who was also at the 1952 cup-tie against Rangers. He reckons there was more in 77, and remember Fir Park was a larger arena in 77 than it was in 52 yet the attendance was given as approx 36,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretbandonambershirt Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Cakes pic from St Mirren cup-tie in 1977. A very tightly packed Fir Park that day with the 'official' attendance given at just under 27,000. "No way", said my old-man who was also at the 1952 cup-tie against Rangers. He reckons there was more in 77, and remember Fir Park was a larger arena in 77 than it was in 52 yet the attendance was given as approx 36,000. That was an unbelievable crowd. I remember there was some great excitement in Lanarkshire leading up to this game. As someone who had seen large crowds at Fir Park, this was exceptional and I reckon there was more than the official attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 The racing colours question was discredited yonks ago, Bradford is the most likely explanation for our colour change given that I believe they dontated a set of strips to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I support the opinion that our colours were changed to avoid the almost constant need to change strip due to colour clashes with the abundance of clubs who also played in blue and white. Guess we may never know precisely why we went for C&A. Glad we did tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Cheers for that Pie. Not as good quality as I had previously thought. I watched this game 6 foot up on the floodlight at the far right side, changed days now when you can't even stand up. BTW, goals from this game are available on a St Mirren video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakes Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I'm never opening this thread again. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carluke dosser Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 My Dad worked on the Main Stand (as it was) when it was getting built he was a joiner at that time, sent him a copy of it tonite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 was it not our first colours, blue + something that we used from Lord Dalziell? then changed to claret + amber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Dixie Deans Gary McAllister John Goldthorp Ian St.John Matt Thomson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakes Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Ian St.John Tynecastle gie's me the boak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 was it not our first colours, blue + something that we used from Lord Dalziell? then changed to claret + amber? It is probably more likely that our blue originated from Alpha who wore that colour before they merged with Glencairn to form Motherwell. Glencairns colour is not known as they were not SFA members, so unlike Alpha their colours where not registered. It could also be because more common colours like blue were cheaper to buy. To quote Historical kits... The economic factors were probably more significant. A survey of Scottish clubs in the 1870s and early 1880s reveals that most clubs played in plain jerseys (navy, red, maroon, green or rarely white) or narrow hoops in a combination of two of these colours. Remember that players had to buy their own kit in those days: the working class lads that took up the sport would not be inclined to join clubs that required expensive colour combinations associated with public schools or universities that they had no connection with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav212 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Great pic Pie, i didnt realise that the current main stand is effectively an "extension" so to speak, of the old one. Learn something new every day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 This is a brilliant thread Can someone answer this question though? I remember hearing that Motherwell were the first team to win the European cup before it was an official tournament. This may be bollocks but i'm sure it was a cup we played for durin a pre season tour of Spain in which we beat some of the best sides in Europe Hope its true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 This is a brilliant thread Can someone answer this question though? I remember hearing that Motherwell were the first team to win the European cup before it was an official tournament. This may be bollocks but i'm sure it was a cup we played for durin a pre season tour of Spain in which we beat some of the best sides in Europe Hope its true King of Spain Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Aye King of Spain Cup which I, using journalistic licence, claimed in OSB as the forerunner of European competition hence we were the first European Cup winners Maybe not where you heard it but it's true anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Geat pics there, mate, though it begs the question why were Motherwell in Argentina in 1928 ?? My ex-brother in law's great uncle played on that tour, his surname was Frame, apparently he kept a journal of the tour.... think it's somewhere in Missouri, like tons of Motherwell stuff sitting in someone's basement/loft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big tache Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Tynecastle gie's me the boak. At last aphoto of us scoring a goal !..................Well until Big Pie tells us it smacked off the goalie's mush that hard it went oot for a throw in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 BTW, goals from this game are available on a St Mirren video. Which video? Who has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Pretty sure that the team sailed to places like Argentina and South Africa for massive pre-season tours in those days. A medal from our South African tour was up for auction recently. also... A rare original newspaper from our 1928 Argentine adventure is still on sale HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Shanks Fan Club Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 The kit was claret and amber stripes. It's just that our original shade of amber was much darker than it is at the moment. A colour picture of one of the original claret and amber strip can be seen at http://www.scotlandforvisitors.com/soccerpic1.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Which video? Who has it? Guy I used to know from Renfrew was a Saints fan and had a History Of type video which included the goals from 1977 cup game. Haven't seen him for at least ten years though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 At last aphoto of us scoring a goal !..................Well until Big Pie tells us it smacked off the goalie's mush that hard it went oot for a throw in yer safe wee-man, it hit the back of the pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 A colour picture of one of the original claret and amber strip can be seen at http://www.scotlandforvisitors.com/soccerpic1.php Nice one. Has to be said though - was a fucking honking colour of "amber". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 The kit was claret and amber stripes. It's just that our original shade of amber was much darker than it is at the moment. It must have been claret and amber, because if I recollect, didn't the Argentinians send us a set of Football strips a few years later, during the war I believe, which turned out to be claret with an amber band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Aye King of Spain Cup which I, using journalistic licence, claimed in OSB as the forerunner of European competition hence we were the first European Cup winners Maybe not where you heard it but it's true anyway Cheers MJ thats where i must have read it Brainwashin at its finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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