wellfan29 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 has anyone got a copy of this book they no longer want been looking for it for ages tried to order it from the library but no luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepele Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 There are a couple of copies on ebay if thats any help.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan29 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 cheers mate not got a credit card or anything though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyronical Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Try here Click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 what is the book about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyronical Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 what is the book about Hoolaginism from a motherwell point of view basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellworn Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 what is the book about At a guess Saturday Service casuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepele Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 what is the book about This has to be a piss take........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 it sounds quite good.i wouldn't mind a look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyronical Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 This has to be a piss take........ I know and i walked right into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteelman Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/hooligan-football-SA...93%3A1|294%3A50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph St.Cosmo Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Yup looks really smashing a lovely group of far sighted well fans with the a freindly Union flag on the cover. I think I know all I need to know without turning a page thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan29 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 just put a bid on ebay cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepele Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Have you been approved for a credit card then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Could try this place if ebay disnae work for ye. They got the last order before it sold out up here http://backpagenewcastle.com/User/Index.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafficlight Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'm ambivalent about these kind of books. Yes, they are interesting social history, yet by definition they tend to glamorise violence, giving a nostalgic romance to what was thuggery. Is such mindless brutality worthy of analysis ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'm ambivalent about these kind of books. Yes, they are interesting social history, yet by definition they tend to glamorise violence, giving a nostalgic romance to what was thuggery. Is such mindless brutality worthy of analysis ? Just ask Danny Dyer I remember an episode from his Real Football Factories and it actually featured Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepele Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'm ambivalent about these kind of books. Yes, they are interesting social history, yet by definition they tend to glamorise violence, giving a nostalgic romance to what was thuggery. Is such mindless brutality worthy of analysis ? By your own definition then you would be ambivalent about any history books to do with war ,after all war is only violence,thuggery and mindless brutality made legal by politicians,yet at the same time to quote yourself"nostalgic romance" is relived in the stories of the veterans who fought in them, who could find the best in the worst of situations.What you have to realise is that even in the timescale of when this book and others like them are based its a generation ago,things change and for anyone to take todays values and transfer them to things that happened a generation or generations ago are not making comparisons that can be judged fairly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesher Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 What you have to realise is that even in the timescale of when this book and others like them are based its a generation ago,things change and for anyone to take todays values and transfer them to things that happened a generation or generations ago are not making comparisons that can be judged fairly Kylie should wheel out this paragraph the next time he says 'nig nog' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafficlight Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 By your own definition then you would be ambivalent about any history books to do with war ,after all war is only violence,thuggery and mindless brutality made legal by politicians,yet at the same time to quote yourself"nostalgic romance" is relived in the stories of the veterans who fought in them, who could find the best in the worst of situations.What you have to realise is that even in the timescale of when this book and others like them are based its a generation ago,things change and for anyone to take todays values and transfer them to things that happened a generation or generations ago are not making comparisons that can be judged fairly Today's values? As far as I'm aware the vast majority of football fans at the time were disgusted by the hooliganism that emerged in the 1970s and flourished in the 1980s, and to compare football hooligans to soldiers is insulting. Incidentally, I would hope that everyone has an abivalence to war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper_no1 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'm ambivalent about these kind of books. Yes, they are interesting social history, yet by definition they tend to glamorise violence, giving a nostalgic romance to what was thuggery. Is such mindless brutality worthy of analysis ? I've read the book and have a copy....somewhere in my maws hoose. When i bought it i wasn't sure what to expect - the fact someone from Motherwell was literate enough to write a book was surprise enough . When i did read it though,and then afterwards spoke to the author himself i'd say the whole purpose of this book isn't to particularly glamorise violence but give more of a birds eye view of what happened from one persons perspective. Nostalgic? I wouldn't say particularly - i mean yeah probably in parts (havn't read the book in a long time) but i wouldn't say it was really in your face nostalgic because there a bit more to the book than that. Listen at the end of the day it's a good read and it's not a case of, "oh we leathered this c**t and that c**t n then battered this guy"........theres a lot more build up to events going on and a lot more about the 'lifestyle' aspect than you might expect aswell. Top book fae a top guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaag Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 hmm will need to have a read of this. Not into football hooliganism culture at all, but since it's a motherwell related book, i might make an exception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnymfc Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Just ask Danny Dyer I remember an episode from his Real Football Factories and it actually featured Motherwell. Aye, did a Motherwell fan not get knifed and die @ Airbles???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Aye, did a Motherwell fan not get knifed and die @ Airbles???? Do you work for The Sun There was a murder on the day of an Aberdeen game but totally unrelated to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafficlight Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 theres a lot more build up to events going on and a lot more about the 'lifestyle' aspect than you might expect aswell. That's exactly what worries me about hooligan memoirs, mate; that nostalgia for the clothes, music, friendships of the time will give a romantic slant to the violence. If an author uses their book to express remorse and illustrate the reality of the broken bones, fair enough, but I wouldn't want to read a straight re-telling of the violence where you can almost hear the music of the day providing a soundtrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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