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Regarding the comment made last August - "the pitch should be fine, so long as we don't have a bad winter."

 

Although we are all amateur turf consultants now, it appears the pitch has deteriorated due to a combiation of the cold weather, undersoil heating and pitch covers. If the turf consultants knew this beforehand, should they not have advised groundstaff not to overuse the undersoil heating? Although we have properly installed heating, we could have approached the SFA with a note from our "pitch doctor" saying we can't play cos our new grass seedlings will get damaged.

 

If the SFA orders are we must use all means at our disposal to make the pitch playable, then the club can not be penalised. However, if club staff failed to adhere to consultant's recommendations, then we are to blame.

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hobgoblin

 

Love that word :lol:

 

if the pitch was a mud heap you could blame the weather but seeing as the grass looks dead and is packed with sand,it would look more like the actual grass roots have been killed which would suggest the undersoil heating was to blame and so the groundstaff are responsible.

 

How was the pitch tended to during the snowy weather? was the pitch cleared of all snow before undersoil heating was turned on? or were covers + snow left on essentially "baking" the pitch? and if the new drains "worked too well + left the pitch with no moisture" why werent sprinklers used to add moisture?

 

many questions need answered, was interested to hear a guy on the radio scotland phone in last night saying he personally knew the guys who installed the pitch and Boyle went for the cheap option instead of spending a bit more and doing the job properly, is this true?

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many questions need answered, was interested to hear a guy on the radio scotland phone in last night saying he personally knew the guys who installed the pitch and Boyle went for the cheap option instead of spending a bit more and doing the job properly, is this true?

 

I'd be surprised if that were the case considering that the SPL had their own people there to ensure that the job was done properly. They were obviously satisfied at the time that everything was up to standard.

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many questions need answered, was interested to hear a guy on the radio scotland phone in last night saying he personally knew the guys who installed the pitch and Boyle went for the cheap option instead of spending a bit more and doing the job properly, is this true?

 

Was it the cheap option or the affordable option though?

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Yep that 350 grand im afraid is money down the drainage system. :D . Our pitch is dreadfull and needing a compete overhaul again at the end of the season.

 

Which is what greatly concerns me. Do we need to spend this money again when it could have been reinvested in the squad?

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I'd be surprised if that were the case considering that the SPL had their own people there to ensure that the job was done properly. They were obviously satisfied at the time that everything was up to standard.

 

 

Thats my thinking as well, which leads me to believe the pitch was fucked up by staff! :D

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Which is what greatly concerns me. Do we need to spend this money again when it could have been reinvested in the squad?

 

 

Most of the 350K was spent on replacing/reparing the undersoil heating, drainage system and the layers below the pitch. I can't imagine it will cost the same again to repare the pitch this time round. From what I understand all it needs is reseeding and time to grow.

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If the turf consultants knew this beforehand, should they not have advised groundstaff not to overuse the undersoil heating? Although we have properly installed heating, we could have approached the SFA with a note from our "pitch doctor" saying we can't play cos our new grass seedlings will get damaged.

 

If the SFA orders are we must use all means at our disposal to make the pitch playable, then the club can not be penalised. However, if club staff failed to adhere to consultant's recommendations, then we are to blame.

 

when would we have to tell them we can't play? we knew on the 30th of december that we'd no game until the 23rd of january, having the park playable wasn't an issue.

 

it looks like we had covers and the ush on for a fortnight for no reason and that's what done for the park.

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when would we have to tell them we can't play? we knew on the 30th of december that we'd no game until the 23rd of january, having the park playable wasn't an issue.

 

it looks like we had covers and the ush on for a fortnight for no reason and that's what done for the park.

 

Added to that point, the minute the accies game was called off due to the pipes in the stand, the covers should have been removed and heating switched off. IMO!

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Hmmmmm.....

 

Wembley to relay pitch for 10th time

The Wembley surface has come under fire in the past week

 

The Wembley pitch will be replaced for the 10th time in three years, with officials blaming the combined effects of a harsh winter and freak weather. The surface has once again come in for criticism this week after the Carling Cup final on Sunday and England's friendly against Egypt on Wednesday.

 

But Wembley officials insist that has not affected their decision.

 

"This pitch has not fared well during an extremely harsh winter and needs to be replaced," said a Wembley spokesman.

 

The badly cut-up surface was described by James Milner after the Carling Cup final as "one of the worst pitches I've played on all year".

 

And Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson believes the "heavy" pitch played its part in Michael Owen suffering a season-ending hamstring injury.

 

o.gif Owen's United team-mate Wayne Rooney is also an injury doubt after playing two games at Wembley in the space of four days, with his match-winning display off the bench in the Carling Cup final followed by 87 minutes of action in England's 3-1 friendly win over Egypt.

 

But Wembley officials say the weather - with 8cm of rain in the week leading up to the Carling Cup final and a further 4cm the night before the game - ensured a poor surface was unavoidable.

 

"The ground staff did very well to stage the Carling Cup despite conditions in the build-up and employed the use of a canopy to shield the pitch from the rain on Saturday night and Sunday before kick-off," added the spokesman.

 

"They worked round the clock and could not have done more. Conditions were better ahead of the England match but the pitch was still not good enough for our liking.

 

"A decision was made on Wednesday night to replace the pitch and this will take place this weekend ahead of Johnstone's Paint Trophy on 28 March.

 

"This will be the 10th pitch since opening but the stadium caters for football and non-football events so replacing the pitch more than once during the course of a year is a reality of a multi-purpose venue."

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