Lobey_Dosser Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I do not agree that Gannon has to go, thats a ridiculous statement. On the other hand though, his tactics and decisions in the last few games have been horrible. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David MFC Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 get blakey back to carstairs ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Every manager deserves at least a season and a half to get his own team playing the way he wants them to, with the possible exception of getting them relegated after the first. Numptiness of the highest order to suggest otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patons02 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Every manager deserves at least a season and a half to get his own team playing the way he wants them to, with the possible exception of getting them relegated after the first. Numptiness of the highest order to suggest otherwise. What about Malpas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk2205 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Blakey was taken to Wishaw General A&E this afternoon and promptly sectioned under the mental health act. Speedy recovery big guy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe_Green Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I think Blakey is onto something here, so today to ease his worrying about the management and players, I have been to see T McLean invited him back as manager H Kampmann as his assistant Lined up some experience for the visit of St Johnstone, the line up next week will be McCrae Rab McKinnon Brian Martin John Philiben Joe Wark Billy Campbell Bobby Graham Paul lambert John gaghan Dougie Arnott Wullie P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dick Campbell's profile as a manager has never been higher than just now. Matbe its time he stepped back upto the Top Flight as our new gaffer. Dick will have us fighting with heart and hand, sword and shield and would definately help bring along the young apprentices in our squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WellArmy_88 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I do not agree that Gannon has to go, thats a ridiculous statement. On the other hand though, his tactics and decisions in the last few games have been horrible. Spot On! Question's must be answered. When's he going to learn that this kind of football where trying to play isn't working, it's okay having the ball passed about the back four, but where not creating spaces while doing it. Very poor. No penetration when on the ball, no creativity. Every player in the first quarter of the pitch when defending, so when we do win the ball we have to play tight football in our own half, which this team can't do. Yassin's atitude yesterday was terrible couple of occasions he gave up in chasing the ball before it had wen't out the park. Same points every week. This issue with dicipline is very average. It's so good saying " Gannon what do you make of the relegation scrap that your team are currently in?" " It's dissapointing but where the best diciplined team in the spl". It's starting to show in our play, not closing down and not putting in enough challenges, which could run the risk of commiting a foul. Being the team with less yellow cards and fouls doesn't win us games. let us see an improvement on saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Spot On! Question's must be answered. When's he going to learn that this kind of football where trying to play isn't working, it's okay having the ball passed about the back four, but where not creating spaces while doing it. Very poor. No penetration when on the ball, no creativity. Every player in the first quarter of the pitch when defending, so when we do win the ball we have to play tight football in our own half, which this team can't do. Yassin's atitude yesterday was terrible couple of occasions he gave up in chasing the ball before it had wen't out the park. Same points every week. This issue with dicipline is very average. It's so good saying " Gannon what do you make of the relegation scrap that your team are currently in?" " It's dissapointing but where the best diciplined team in the spl". It's starting to show in our play, not closing down and not putting in enough challenges, which could run the risk of commiting a foul. Being the team with less yellow cards and fouls doesn't win us games. let us see an improvement on saturday. See i kind of agree that the football we aren't playing isn't working just now. But do you think it may just be at the moment we are 2 or 3 players short of being able to play this system and Gannon has recognised this and will sort it out in January with a couple of signings. So he is keeping faith with the system for the benefit of the players that can play this system. Sometimes it takes a while for teams to adapt to new styles of play and changing the system can have an advesre effect. Maybe that is his thinking and we may see an improvement in January when he can put another couple of peices of the jigsaw together. As someone has already said Rome wasn't built in a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I do not agree that Gannon has to go, thats a ridiculous statement. On the other hand though, his tactics and decisions in the last few games have been horrible. Pretty much agree with this. I'm pro-Gannon generally but actually, despite the mockery, there is at least a grain of truth in most of the points made in the original post. Frankly, Gannon hasn't done much right in the last two months but he's treated like some kind of sacred cow because the rest of the league are so bad they've taken two months to catch up with a team with four league wins at Christmas with the last one in October. If there was a couple of decent sides outside of the top four in the league, which there isn't, we'd already have been further down the league. A more realistic point of view is that we have been acceptably mediocre so far this season given our pre-season fears but that could change in the coming weeks and months either in a positive or negative sense. We are entering a crucial stage of the season. The next three league games and the Inverness match will give us a better idea of just how good Gannon is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 This has been one of the most frustrating seasons I can remember. I'm happy with what Gannon is trying to do and happy with where we are sitting in the league considering we are rebuilding at the moment but I find it frustrating that there never seems to be any urgency or change of style during games. Even against 10 men we have the slow, laborious build up which gives the opposition plenty of time to get everybody back behind the ball and then when we lose it they hit us on the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that hat Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 the slow, laborious build up which gives the opposition plenty of time to get everybody back behind the ball and then when we lose it they hit us on the break. Well said. If the team is going to play silky football and build from the back then everybody has to have the skill to retain possession until the chance to score is taken with confidence and there's no way the current squad meet that requirement. At least they're converting a few of the free kicks and corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab_mackinnon Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I think Blakey is onto something here, so today to ease his worrying about the management and players, I have been to see T McLean invited him back as manager H Kampmann as his assistant Lined up some experience for the visit of St Johnstone, the line up next week will be McCrae Rab McKinnon Brian Martin John Philiben Joe Wark Billy Campbell Bobby Graham Paul lambert John gaghan Dougie Arnott Wullie P Yes made the team!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellAyrshire Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Aye but you'll be torture at right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gullane Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 If Gannon's too intricate a manager for you, perhaps you could consider a seasoned Scottish gaffer like Heggarty. He's available too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 have deliberately refrained from posting here after that embarrassment at the weekend. Now Ive calmed down I can take stock of this in a rational manner. Jim Gannon is a decent manager and has a track record of doing well with kids. Were not gonna get a better manager with the resources available to us, HOWEVER he needs to realize whos paying his wages,shut the fuck up about referees and have a good long look in the mirror. His tactics are decidedly poor at the moment and he needs to sort things out pronto or he is going to undo what good work he has done so far. Anything short of victory in our next game is just unacceptable and 7 points in the next 3 games is a must, anything less and were gonna be stuck in a rut and in relegation danger. Yes we might be a few points away from bottom but IF we dont get a few points soon we really dont have a squad capable of fighting for points if it comes down to it, we have little to no experience and kids are not the answer when it comes to fighting tooth and nail on a muddy pitch on a cold february afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Anything short of victory in our next game is just unacceptable and 7 points in the next 3 games is a must, anything less and were gonna be stuck in a rut and in relegation danger. Yes we might be a few points away from bottom but IF we dont get a few points soon we really dont have a squad capable of fighting for points if it comes down to it Exactly what my fears are and anything less than the above mentioned haul and that's what we can look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Anything short of victory in our next game is just unacceptable Here's me thinking I was on a Motherwell forum! I don't think we'll ever be in a position where we can start demanding wins, we'll never be that good, and losing to Hibs, Rangers and Celtic is hardly crisis-worthy. We didn't turn into a bad team overnight, we just played three better teams. The relegation talk is unbelievable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 The relegation talk is unbelievable! This time next week, it could be very much believable. Fingers crossed we return to some form but if we keep persisiting in playing the way we have been, I can only see us going backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 The relegation talk is unbelievable! not really. we're eight points off the bottom and our current form is poor. it's helpful that we have the bottom six to play next but you can't really look at any of them and think they'll be easy games for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Our current form is poor cos we played the top 3 clubs, with squads way better than ours. An 8 point lead is pretty significant considering there's also another 6 teams between us and the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 wether we got beat 2-1 or 6-1 last weekend,the biggest thing is we bounce back and dont let the manner of the loss affect us, Im not demanding myself but its a fact, we MUST win the next game or at the worst draw and win the next couple, losing points in these games closes the gap between us and the teams below us and digs the rut were currently in deeper! Weve not become a bad team overnight, weve been shite for a decent part of this season and its not the fact weve lost the last 3 games (all against the top 3 teams in the country) its the manner of these losses and the amount of goals were shipping thats worrying, coupled with the fact our squad has an average age of 22 and the majority less then 100 SPL games BETWEEN them and the real prospect of losing the 2 players responsible for the majority of our points this season means if we dont get ourselves sorted we simply dont have a squad capable of fighting in a relegation battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I don't think we NEED to do anything - other than stay up. We all knew this young team would have a bad spell and we take a fair few humpings. Its amazing that it hasn't happened up till now. We'll come back from it stronger - maybe on Sat maybe not. Folk need to go away and change their breeks. Time to keep yer tights dry people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Breeks are fine, sat isnt the last game were gonna lost this season,and we will prob have another total raping or 2 before the end of the season as well, however you admit we NEED to stay up? I wonder how you think we are we gonna do this without picking up points in the next few games? 1 win in last 10 games, 21 goals against, 11 goals for (7? by a player who will prob leave in jan) reality of losing our best + most influential player (Ruddy) in jan and a thin + very young squad! Those are the cold hard facts, we NEED to pick up points pronto or it really will be pant wetting time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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