dosser1886 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I really don't like the idea of moving to a stadium along the lines of St Mirren Park. I can't see why Motherwell can't aim for a unique 10,000 seater stadium along the lines of the ones in mainland europe. Something like the Finnair Stadium in Helsinki would be my idea of a new ground. A big main stand,no big gaps at the corners and can fit 10,770 folk. I know it's unlikely but whenever it gets built as long as it's not like the other new stadiums in the SPL I'll be happy. Now your talking - dreamland I know but that is the mutts nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 South Stand - Poorly built, huge stand blocking sunlight onto pitch creating big problems, went for cheap option by designing in house (using Bill Dickie) Probably the most pertinent statement made so far. Many of us 'auldeez' will remember when Fir Park had one of the best pitches in the country ............... before BD was allowed to design his first ever stadium stand. A 3 sided 2-tier'd option is my preference .... see below, while on the 4th side something akin to the pavilion style Norrporten Arena in Sweden with a media suite, executive boxes, the club offices and other income stream facilities either side. A stadium which would attract Under 21 games, Junior cup-ties for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Now your talking - dreamland I know but that is the mutts nuts. all the other facilities in that pic suggest it is used for more than just the 90 mins on a saturday, which has got to be the way forward.its just unfortunate we couldn't have had something tied in with the sports centre being built up the 'craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Don't know when the first stands were built but just goes to show. 5 years perhaps, can't be much more than that. + the sea air will have contributed to the rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 You moan we want away but let's see how you feel when we're playing in some legoland shiter like New St Mirren park. Long live Fir Park. agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnymfc Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I dont know, the South and Cooper stand are class. I'd demolish the East and rebuild then target the main only if the decision was to stay at FP. However i like the look of Sør Arena. Pure class. Lovely little stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnymfc Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Discussed before, many a change in policies and behavior of society supercedes. An act of local government changing land use would hold no fear for the developing company... a lot more commonplace than you may think and I'd suspect there are many at North Lanarkshire Council would be easily swayed AYE kos most of the Elected members are crooks. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Now your talking - dreamland I know but that is the mutts nuts. I know it's dreamland but until plans are announced I'd like to think something like this could be round the corner. The other outlook is pretty depressing when you see New Douglas Park and the other stadiums. I know hee-haw about how these things work but if there can be two great buildings built in Ravenscraig surely there's a strong possibility one more could be built, with a bit of money coming from outside sources, in a new community stadium that wouldn't look out of place next to the college and sports centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I dont know, the South and Cooper stand are class. I'd demolish the East and rebuild then target the main only if the decision was to stay at FP. However i like the look of Sør Arena. Pure class. Lovely little stadium. You may have hit on something there. Demolish the East Stand and build a new 4,000 seater, 2-tiers if land bordering Knowetop Primary is an issue, (with facilities for pre/post match use), and reduce the reliance on the Main Stand. By that I mean, leave the players/corporate facilities but other than to the Director's Box and media suites no one else gets in. That would leave the old girl with an 11,500(ish) capacity, with a longer term desire to replace the main stand with a far smaller structure based on the above criteria and with additional facilities for increased revenue streams. In addition consideration should be given to replacing parts, if not all, of the South Stand roof with a product which would allow natural light to strike that end of the pitch. Where's our online Stadium designers ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosser1886 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I love these threads, as AKA says come on guys lets see your designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 You may have hit on something there. I don't think he has... How often does he use the South Stand? Facilities are lacking (I know it's only for those who don't follow our club, I've spoken to some who don't and it enters conversation) and not aesthetically pleasing going by paintwork condition and present building movement. I see that most Saturday mornings as the bin lid goes to the morning coaching, unsure if Cooper Stand is similar as I only enter for the Cooper Lounge and Cooper boxes on occassion. It's the style and design that adds to the hefty maintenance bill, so fail to see how they are 'class'. A new East Stand? 2 tiers? ? I'd wager the logistics of that would mean the jump to the other side of the West Coast Main Line would be taken that bit sooner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Kerse Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I really don't like the idea of moving to a stadium along the lines of St Mirren Park. I can't see why Motherwell can't aim for a unique 10,000 seater stadium along the lines of the ones in mainland europe. Something like the Finnair Stadium in Helsinki would be my idea of a new ground. A big main stand,no big gaps at the corners and can fit 10,770 folk. I know it's unlikely but whenever it gets built as long as it's not like the other new stadiums in the SPL I'll be happy. Spot on. A new stadium MUST NOT be a McDiarmid/St Mirren/New Broomfield legoland pop up toy town clone! We need something unique, not only in design but atmosphere and revenue streams. Fully enclosed for a start and you start to move away from the flatpack four stand identikit. A bigger main stand like the one above alos sets it off and to keep the (empty) seats down plenty of executive boxes/restaurants/bars - a proper 'sports bar' /shops in the 'corners'. We MUST move soon. If we don't we are going to dwindle away to a once proud club playing in a rotting ground in front of 2500 people each week. If we twin a stadium move with cheap pricing and get everyone back + new punters on board we can save the club before it is too late. This is pre-emptive of course but there was only 3500 at the LAST weekend game in a TOP 6 game when we are going for EUROPE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I don't think he has... .............. It was the demolish the East Stand bit I meant and opened up for debate as a short-term solution mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 How much did St Mirren get for Love Street? I know we're talking about different economic times now, but how much do you reckon we'd get for Fir Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Special Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 How much did St Mirren get for Love Street? I know we're talking about different economic times now, but how much do you reckon we'd get for Fir Park? Pretty sure it was £10m And due to that being from Tesco, I doubt we'd get anything near that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Pretty sure it was £10mAnd due to that being from Tesco, I doubt we'd get anything near that. Did they actually get the cash though ? I thought it was a straight swap, old Love Street for the new place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Did they not clear all their debt with the money they got from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 what ever the deal was they were diddled getting that pathetic excuse for a football stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 They got their debt cleared, the stadium paid for without being homeless and £1,000,000 extras in the bank. Apart from the poor stadium (which is fine for their needs) they got the deal of the century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Special Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 what ever the deal was they were diddled getting that pathetic excuse for a football stadium. I doubt the fans would admit that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Special Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 They got their debt cleared, the stadium paid for without being homeless and £1,000,000 extras in the bank. Apart from the poor stadium (which is fine for their needs) they got the deal of the century. Seriously!?? What's the stadium made of? Macaroni? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I doubt the fans would admit that though. St Mirren's old home once held almost 50,000. Now while I'm not suggestiong that those halcyon days of record attendances will return anytime soon, what happens when/if football in this country does experience a bit of a recovery, (gate prices are set at decent levels), the flat cap is once more fashionable and punters decide they wish to return to the beautiful game ? New Love St may prove to be too small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 but St Middens, like all these "toytown" "legoland" "soulless boxes" "pop up" "shoe box" etc stadiums are easily extended if need be, want 2000 new seats? fill in corners? couple thousand more? add a top deck, all done simply and cost effectively. What is this pathological hatred of traditional 4 stand stadiums? and apparent need for expensive works of art instead? As I have said earlier, corner seating sections are the least used in new grounds + cost 33% more than straight sections. Extra tiers cost £1m+ more than a single tier stand. Why would many people on here would scoff at the 4 stand type stadium which would cost maybe £8m - £10m in favour of a bowl or 2 tier design that would cost £12m - £15m min? Crazy, personally id rather sit in a so called "Soulless Legoland Toytown ground" watching a decent team than sitting in some wonder ground with a team fit for the 2nd division cause the stadium cost millions more just to keep some people happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Have just discovered an area within Glasgow's Necropolis is named Fir Park. How apt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosser1886 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 What is this pathological hatred of traditional 4 stand stadiums? Sorry mate but your opinion got a bit fucked by the example that you posted, if that is your preferred design for Motherwell Football Club then that is just shite. You seem to chuck around numbers like you know what you are taking about? Do you? cause it doesn't sound like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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