Finlay Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 He did. If he goes we should get a fair bit for him imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I heard today that there was scouts from Newcastle and at least 3 other premiership clubs watching Jamie Murphy but I forgot the other ones. Did he not sign a 3 year deal recently ? They mentioned 3 or 4 premiership clubs on the radio before the game, the only one I remember was Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarty Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 West Ham & Birmingham were the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Absolutley no point in Murphy going to an EPL club right now. Look at it this way, Ports and the Juke can't command a place in an EPL team so Murphy at this stage in his development won't. Money and 'well tinted specs aside, he would be far better with another season and a half developing at Fir Park under Jack and Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Wellfan 2k7 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Absolutley no point in Murphy going to an EPL club right now. Look at it this way, Ports and the Juke can't command a place in an EPL team so Murphy at this stage in his development won't. Money and 'well tinted specs aside, he would be far better with another season and a half developing at Fir Park under Jack and Victor. But If you look at the success of Players such as James McFadden and James McCarthy who both went to reasonably Mid Table EPL Clubs. McFadden is earning high and Playing football week in week out With Birmingham (Except When He was Injured) and McCarthy is doing much the same with Wigan. Although McFadden was still a class or so above Murphy, He played the exact same role as Murphy is doing so now and Murphy would be a great success in the EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 But If you look at the success of Players such as James McFadden and James McCarthy who both went to reasonably Mid Table EPL Clubs. McFadden is earning high and Playing football week in week out With Birmingham (Except When He was Injured) and McCarthy is doing much the same with Wigan. Although McFadden was still a class or so above Murphy, He played the exact same role as Murphy is doing so now and Murphy would be a great success in the EPL. As you said, Faddy was a better player. Plus, how much did he actually feature for Everton? Not that much, certainly not at the start when he got his move at a young age. Its taken years to grow up age wise and football wise and moving to a lesser club for him to be able to hold a place down. McCarthy, haven't really watched wigan so can't judge him. I just dont think our Jamie could cut it yet and I certainly don't think he's physically able to match it with EPL defenders. The majority of EPL strikers are all big strapping athletes, even Torres is deceptive, when you see him up close you realise he isn't a wee weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Wellfan 2k7 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 As you said, Faddy was a better player. Plus, how much did he actually feature for Everton? Not that much, certainly not at the start when he got his move at a young age. Its taken years to grow up age wise and football wise and moving to a lesser club for him to be able to hold a place down. McCarthy, haven't really watched wigan so can't judge him. I just dont think our Jamie could cut it yet and I certainly don't think he's physically able to match it with EPL defenders. The majority of EPL strikers are all big strapping athletes, even Torres is deceptive, when you see him up close you realise he isn't a wee weed. Well, He moved to Everton Where he was nurtured and was only taken away by a High Bid From Birmingham. He found himself at Everton and has since then taken up a midfield role instead of an attacking role. AS far as I remember he played a big role in Evertons Champions league campiagn a few years back. Scoring goals etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muir on tour Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 If a good bid comes in for murphy we need to accept it. We would all love a million pounds for reynolds now, which did get offered and for folk would settle for 250k now on here! Need to accept good bids when they are there on the table and not make te same mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmo Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have no doubt that Murphy would be missed but surely Lawless, Forbes, Gow or Pollock could take the left midfield position and claim a starting place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Steelman Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 With Blackburn looking to be sold to an Indian Megabucks company , hopefully they splash the cash in Jan transfer window leaving Nick Blackman able to stay with us till the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Faddy hardly featured for the first year after his move to Everton, waste of talent, we could have been getting the benefit whilst he was on a continued learning curve. End of next season maybe Jamie will be ready, just now it's way too soon. Pearson suffered from moving too quicky as well and I don't even know what he's doing now, luckily Faddy was a special talent and is now showing his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmo Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Wouldn't mind one of those deals where they buy a player and he is loaned back to the club for x amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Faddy hardly featured for the first year after his move to Everton, waste of talent, we could have been getting the benefit whilst he was on a continued learning curve. End of next season maybe Jamie will be ready, just now it's way too soon. Pearson suffered from moving too quicky as well and I don't even know what he's doing now, luckily Faddy was a special talent and is now showing his worth. agreed, mcfadden and pearson left too early. jamie would be better following scott mcdonald's example and having a couple of seasons of being the main man for us and establish himself as one the best players in the spl before leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Murphy has far more potential than Faddy imo. If he continues to improve and show continued belief in his ability while building his strength and staminia, he will be ready to join the likes of McCarthy, McFadden, Adam, Dorrans and Fletcher in a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 From the sounds of it McCarthy has been a revalation down at Wigan. Rumours are he is Arsenal bound very soon. McFadden - done well, but not as good as I felt he could have done. Murphy. Still a long way to go before he can play regularly in the EPL. He also needs to bulk up slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Everytime McFadden has broken through, and at times even shown his quality the following week or so he's found himself in the physio room. It hasn't been ability letting him down, just the fact he has been injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Murphy has far more potential than Faddy imo. One of the most bonkers opinions I've seen on here in a long time. Don't get me wrong, I think Murphy is a really good player when on his game, but he isnae a patch on McFadden when he was at Motherwell. Murphy is 21 now, but McFadden was a far more influential player in our side then and he was a full Scotland international at that stage, which I dont think Murphy is ready for, certainly physically. Me and my mate have been watching him specifically all season, and in the 1st half of games he has been senastional at times, come the 2nd half he becomes non-existant in most games, whether thats through tiredness or opponents wising up to him but Faddy was dominating games and taking them by teh scruff of the neck at a younger age than Murphy is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 One of the most bonkers opinions I've seen on here in a long time. Don't get me wrong, I think Murphy is a really good player when on his game, but he isnae a patch on McFadden when he was at Motherwell. Murphy is 21 now, but McFadden was a far more influential player in our side then and he was a full Scotland international at that stage, which I dont think Murphy is ready for, certainly physically. Me and my mate have been watching him specifically all season, and in the 1st half of games he has been senastional at times, come the 2nd half he becomes non-existant in most games, whether thats through tiredness or opponents wising up to him but Faddy was dominating games and taking them by teh scruff of the neck at a younger age than Murphy is now. Faddy is far more naturally gifted but he has been held back due to his lack of pace and awareness. If Murphy can build on his self belief, strength and stamina I just think he would be better placed to make a bigger impact on the Premiership than McFadden has. Look at Steven Fletcher during his 1st season in Premiership, is Murphy a million miles away from being as good as him? I don't think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Faddy is far more naturally gifted but he has been held back due to his lack of pace and awareness. If Murphy can build on his self belief, strength and stamina I just think he would be better placed to make a bigger impact on the Premiership than McFadden has. Look at Steven Fletcher during his 1st season in Premiership, is Murphy a million miles away from being as good as him? I don't think he is. Steven Fletcher is a totally different player from Murphy and Faddy (who I would say are pretty similar in positional terms). Fletcher is an out and out striker, who occasionally comes deep, but Murphy is in a similar situation to that of Faddy in respect that nobody seems to know his best position. Faddy had more natural ability and far more determination/drive than Murphy has, and I fear that Murphy would get lost if he moved to the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think Murphy would benefit massively from a Premiership move. When you compare him and Blackman or Jutkiewicz, while not similar players, they looked far more physically able to compete in a game. If you look at McCarthy now and a year ago as well, he's far more conditioned than when he left Hamilton. Fletcher the same. I'm not meaning to have a pop at Motherwell or the training methods, because obviously they recognised and helped produce Murphy as a talent, but a move south could really benefit him. Not West Ham though, given that their medical team seems to consist of a big cupboard full of cortizone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 agreed, mcfadden and pearson left too early. jamie would be better following scott mcdonald's example and having a couple of seasons of being the main man for us and establish himself as one the best players in the spl.................. before leaving. As long as he leaves the Scott McDonald similarities at the dots then aye. When he leaves I hope does with a great deal more dignity than that wee fuckiin' ratbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 As long as he leaves the Scott McDonald similarities at the dots then aye. When he leaves I hope does with a great deal more dignity than that wee fuckiin' ratbag. fair enough. i just hope he doesn't have to single handedly keep us in the spl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 fair enough. i just hope he doesn't have to single handedly keep us in the spl. Well if he only scores 2 goals in the last 3 months of the season and we slip that far down the table then you can claim it wasn't his fault on his behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Well if he only scores 2 goals in the last 3 months of the season and we slip that far down the table then you can claim it wasn't his fault on his behalf. we won 3 league games in the 2007 part of 06/07 and mcdonald scored in all of them. all 3 games came after he had signed for celtic. he had a great game and scored at killie before xmas when we were bottom of the league. he had a great game on boxing day at dunfermline and scored. if we had lost those two games i believe we'd have been relegated. in my opinion, in the moday night game at dunfermline mcdoanald was one of only a few motherwell players who looked committed in a game that could of guaranteed our safety. imo he did very well in his last six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 we won 3 league games in the 2007 part of 06/07 and mcdonald scored in all of them. all 3 games came after he had signed for celtic. he had a great game and scored at killie before xmas when we were bottom of the league. he had a great game on boxing day at dunfermline and scored. if we had lost those two games i believe we'd have been relegated. in my opinion, in the moday night game at dunfermline mcdoanald was one of only a few motherwell players who looked committed in a game that could of guaranteed our safety. imo he did very well in his last six months. That was the game he got himself needlessly sent off in so that he missed the very last game vs St Mirren. Aye that was helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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