Lobey_Dosser Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 If we can't compete at that level then we might as well just focus on youth development and just play these young guys. Most of them have done well when shoved into the first team. Agreed. But we should also be keeping a close eye on the lower Scottish Leagues. There are surely 1 or 2 gems to be had. Guys like Conway and Imrie immediately spring to mind, 2 of the more talented players in the league. We seem to have taken our eye off the ball in that respect over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 From the BBC gossip page :- Motherwell manager Stuart McCall admits he cannot compete with English non-league sides in the transfer market. (Various) Looks like that's about our level these days in the transfer market. Still, that is very depressing. Can't figure out how Killie got to snaffle Eremenko when they are in serious debt. Even this year we have had a Euro run, League Cup Semi, and are already further in the Scottish Cup. We have similar attendances and have finished above them in the league for the last few years. Just how are other clubs doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 From the BBC gossip page :- Motherwell manager Stuart McCall admits he cannot compete with English non-league sides in the transfer market. (Various) Fuck me. Is that how low we have sunk? Very depressing. Youth development is the way forward then surely? I'd like to see some of the youths we have starting to get a bit of game time then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Still, that is very depressing. Can't figure out how Killie got to snaffle Eremenko when they are in serious debt. Even this year we have had a Euro run, League Cup Semi, and are already further in the Scottish Cup. We have similar attendances and have finished above them in the league for the last few years. Just how are other clubs doing it? loads of these. but mainly this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Still, that is very depressing. Can't figure out how Killie got to snaffle Eremenko when they are in serious debt. Even this year we have had a Euro run, League Cup Semi, and are already further in the Scottish Cup. We have similar attendances and have finished above them in the league for the last few years. Just how are other clubs doing it? Eremenco is on loan, and his parent club pay his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Agreed. But we should also be keeping a close eye on the lower Scottish Leagues. There are surely 1 or 2 gems to be had. Guys like Conway and Imrie immediately spring to mind, 2 of the more talented players in the league. We seem to have taken our eye off the ball in that respect over the last few years. Danny Swanson (Even though he is a total bawbag) came from Berwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radgenaldo Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 loads of these. but mainly this And the SFA/SPL let teams get into debt for as long as they want, or at least as long as they can afford to keep up the minimum payments.... but when they eventually do, and some definitely will, go into administration, the same governing bodies screw the arse even further out the club by punishing them with almost certain relegation. The sheep are allowed to do whatever they want while they're £12m in debt, 'cause that cock womble Milne's got £400m in the bank. But if he decides to jack it in or curb his input (his business was reportedly losing money hand over fist), they're royally fucked right in the botty. Boyle's had his fingers burned before, he knows he can't push us into debt agin only to then have to bail us out. Youth system..... its the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I doubt any club in the SPL is spending outwith it's means just now. The banks simply wouldn't allow it. Every now and again though you will get a chairman personally financing a deal ala Boyle with Hughes & Porter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideoflanarkshire Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Still, that is very depressing. Can't figure out how Killie got to snaffle Eremenko when they are in serious debt. Even this year we have had a Euro run, League Cup Semi, and are already further in the Scottish Cup. We have similar attendances and have finished above them in the league for the last few years. Just how are other clubs doing it? Finlay, I have to agree with your point, however, they only got Eremenko due to in being Finnish, but surely we can do better than what we are doing!!!!! I like Boyle and totally understand his possition but surely there must be some sort of money there? or has it all went on the re-laying the park and Boyle's back pocket? For the last five years our end of year accounts look good with one year (I think) showing a negitive, but we are still the only that has BOUGHT a player in years??? why???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Finlay, I have to agree with your point, however, they only got Eremenko due to in being Finnish, but surely we can do better than what we are doing!!!!! I like Boyle and totally understand his possition but surely there must be some sort of money there? or has it all went on the re-laying the park and Boyle's back pocket? For the last five years our end of year accounts look good with one year (I think) showing a negitive, but we are still the only that has BOUGHT a player in years??? why???? I don't think any money has ever gon the way of Boyle's back pocket and it's probably a wee bit disrespectful to say it. Post administration we've been run pretty well financially. We haven't sold a player since Quinn & Clarky and that's why we're struggling now. Stadium patch up, wages, the pitch etc that'll burn a hole in our budget all year every year. we seriously need to move a few future stars on when the time's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 The youth set up is where we will source most of our future talent. Other than that it will have to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideoflanarkshire Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I don't think any money has ever gon the way of Boyle's back pocket and it's probably a wee bit disrespectful to say it. Post administration we've been run pretty well financially. We haven't sold a player since Quinn & Clarky and that's why we're struggling now. Stadium patch up, wages, the pitch etc that'll burn a hole in our budget all year every year. we seriously need to move a few future stars on when the time's right. Not once did I say I think it has went in his pocket I was simply asking a question! Surely if the wages, stadium, pitch where a burning a hole in our budget then surely more seasons would show a negative in our end of year accounts? meaning more seasons than not our income is out weighing our expenditure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Every now and again though you will get a chairman personally financing a deal ala Boyle with Hughes & Porter. i think that's a myth. the wage bill increased by a million pounds under mcghee from malpas but the turnover increased by the same amount due to having a very good season. maybe boyle did intend to pay some of there costs but they ended up paying for themselves. i think if we really wanted a player we could find the money to outbid fleetwood, in this instance probably the guy wasn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think this guy picking Fleetwood actually says more about the state of English football and this guys ambition than it does Motherwell and the SPL! English football is heading for meltdown with the frighteningly crazy money they are paying! The fact some players are earning £200k + a year is out of control and if a conference team are going to pay him £2k a week the baws burst! Think of say a similar level up here at Pollock, they ate paying about average £100 a week! No comparison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Not once did I say I think it has went in his pocket I was simply asking a question! Surely if the wages, stadium, pitch where a burning a hole in our budget then surely more seasons would show a negative in our end of year accounts? meaning more seasons than not our income is out weighing our expenditure? No recent big transfer fees in (since Quinn and Clarkson c. £1M) or manager compensation (c. 250K for McGhee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideoflanarkshire Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 No recent big transfer fees in (since Quinn and Clarkson c. £1M) or manager compensation (c. 250K for McGhee) I accept your point. But surely our wige bill is greatly reduced with the likes of hughes, porter, mccorrmick, clarky, smith, mcgarry, quinn, coke, all gone and very little have came in. Also I understand peoples thinking about youth development, however, we often lose any good players coming though, we lost alot with mccart went to celtic, then paul sloan went to, many of them went for next to nothing, we got to look at what airdrie done last week, gave alot of young boys squad numbers and proffesional contracts and that allowed them to sell a boy for £100k to celtic rather than us just fighting for compo all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I tried ma best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Apologies is someone else has already posted this, looks like Casagolda wants away: http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/spo..._county?rss=yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Apologies is someone else has already posted this, looks like Casagolda wants away: http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/spo..._county?rss=yes Ideal. See ya Esteban! Gotta love his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Excellent, gotta take this opperchancity to get the dude off the wage bill. Take the agent up on the offer of buying his contract out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ideal. See ya Esteban! Gotta love his agent. Another one bites the dust. I’ve not even had a chance to judge if this guy was worth all the hype. Ahh well, at least it will free up another wage. Bye, bye Esteban! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Excellent, gotta take this opperchancity to get the dude off the wage bill. Take the agent up on the offer of buying his contract out There's no 'E' in DUD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 There's no 'E' in DUD. How could you say such a thing? Honestly, If I was McCall and read that - he wouldny darken the door again. See ya Gloria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think the fact that Craig Liar Brown has not been linked to the self styled Goal Machine says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Is Blackman definately away then? Read a few conflicting direct quotes from Stuart McCall in a couple of interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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