Guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Fraser turned up for a week in Montrose for a game, didn't realise that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotts Well Fan Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 From today's Scotman's rumour page: Hibs have signed Celtic defensive midfielder Richie Towell on loan from Celtic• Partick Thistle's loan move for Motherwell's Robert McHugh rests on Stuart McCall landing Mike Grella from Leeds• Dundee's Leigh Griffiths will complete a £150,000 move to Leeds within the next 24 hours • Dundee have offered a trial to ex-Aberdeen midfielder Gary Dempsey• Falkirk are 24 hours away from signing Pedro Moutinho for a third time • Patrick Thistle striker Kris Doolan has signed a two-year contract extension First point is obviously out of date (or are club trying an appeal ala Cousin???) Second point is Moutinho is not getting an offer maybe re-enforcing point 1?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I thought Griffiths was away as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAM Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Here's a shout. Michael Fraser is training just now with Falkirk, worth a punt? Half decent pedigree, recent history is a bit murky though, however we don't know the full story why he left Hearts by mutual consent and things turned sour in Turkey. Everything points to him starting a fight in an empty room though. Secondly don't be surprised if a current first team starter has his contract is extended this week. Seen Stewart linked with Accies earlier this week - while guy has some ability rumour is that he destroys dressing rooms and is a total d**k - don't think this would be a move in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 From today's Scotman's rumour page: Hibs have signed Celtic defensive midfielder Richie Towell on loan from Celtic• Partick Thistle's loan move for Motherwell's Robert McHugh rests on Stuart McCall landing Mike Grella from Leeds• Dundee's Leigh Griffiths will complete a £150,000 move to Leeds within the next 24 hours • Dundee have offered a trial to ex-Aberdeen midfielder Gary Dempsey• Falkirk are 24 hours away from signing Pedro Moutinho for a third time • Patrick Thistle striker Kris Doolan has signed a two-year contract extension First point is obviously out of date (or are club trying an appeal ala Cousin???) Second point is Moutinho is not getting an offer maybe re-enforcing point 1?? STV English teams have fielded players who have had more than 2 clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Wouldn't touch Stewart with a barge pole, he'd ruin any spirit in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 STV English teams have fielded players who have had more than 2 clubs. Hear no evil, blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmfc Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Wouldn't touch Stewart with a barge pole, he'd ruin any spirit in the dressing room. Plus he's gash, apart from when taking penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Secondly don't be surprised if a current first team starter has his contract is extended this week. This is far more interesting. Sutton, Jennings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotts Well Fan Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 This is far more interesting. Sutton, Jennings? Maybe Jamie Murphy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Wouldn't touch Stewart with a barge pole, he'd ruin any spirit in the dressing room. agree 100%. surely we've learned our lesson after malcolm and gow. i wouldn't get too excited about senior players, it's more likely to be craggs or hammell adding another year than jenno or sutton agreeing new deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Evidence that either Malcolm or Gow ruined any spirit or had any negative influence? Or too good an opportunity to have yet another go at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Apologies it was a Froidian slip, it was Stewart I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Steelman Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Kick to the baws regarding Grella loan, Leeds are looking for another loan deal for him !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 according to the sun mccall has said theres no chance of that boy fae rotherham joining us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Evidence that either Malcolm or Gow ruined any spirit or had any negative influence? Or too good an opportunity to have yet another go at them? malcolm - the guy was picking up 3 grand a week for doing hee haw. i dubt that he ruined spirit in the dressing room but we certainly have used the wage a lot better in 08/09. gow - i think it's clear that he had a bad effect on the squad. murphy was shunted out wide so gow could ponce about in a free role, by the time the accies game came round he looked completely scunnered. big sutty was treated like shite on someones shoe to fit gow in. dropped after a decent start to the season, he then comes back in and we win two games but gets dropped at easter road and slapped in the face by being a 92 min sub, a sub again at love st and we play better and score when he comes on but he still doesn't start the hearts game, he's still on the bench against rangers even though gow is dire and blackman asks not to play and even though he comes on and scores he's still on the bench at parkhead where gow disgraces himself further and the same again at accies. it was pretty clear by sutton's body language while warming up, his reaction to fans shouting for him and his reaction when he scored at dundee that it was bothering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 So Malcolm was a dig just for the sake of it then? As for Gow, the guy could have cured cancer and you'd still have moaned that it took him too long or that he denied someone else the chance to do it...... anyway, no evidence that Gow himself was a detrimental influence on the dressing room spirit. Was Lukas Jutkiewicz a bad influence because Sutton was shunted to left midfield to accomodate him? Or is that ok, because folk liked him and weren't straight on his back before he'd kicked a ball for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 guy in my work has just asked me if i knew of, or had heard anything about Sutton to Smeltic. He's a tim, so I asked him for links etc as to where this was being discussed. He said its on a few of their forums - namely the green brigade forum. Celtic fans are saying that Lennon is looking for a target man as Daryl Murphy failed to live up to expectations - they have Stokes and Hooper who are similar, so are looking for something different. They were also saying he has limited ability in the sense that he aint going to cut it in Europe, however could certainly do a job domestically. Would be gutted if he left, great player for us and would be a major loss anyone know or heard?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 there's a clear link between malcolm and stewart. guys that came through at big clubs, aren't as good as they think they are, are overpaid and are absolute nuggets. gow keeping sutton out the team pretty much summed up the change in our team between the start of october and the new year. the guy was a waster, never produced on the pitch yet was continually retained in the team, do you think that's unconnected to the turd performances we got against hearts, rangers and accies? the juke isn't a valid comparison. he clearly earned his stripes with goals and playing injured. remember this was a guy who got a puncture wound with stitched in his thigh on the saturday yet declared himself fit to play 30 mins as a sub on the wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 guy in my work has just asked me if i knew of, or had heard anything about Sutton to Smeltic. He's a tim, so I asked him for links etc as to where this was being discussed. He said its on a few of their forums - namely the green brigade forum. Celtic fans are saying that Lennon is looking for a target man as Daryl Murphy failed to live up to expectations - they have Stokes and Hooper who are similar, so are looking for something different. They were also saying he has limited ability in the sense that he aint going to cut it in Europe, however could certainly do a job domestically. Would be gutted if he left, great player for us and would be a major loss anyone know or heard?! i've heard that big sutty regularly scoops with lennon up the west end. nae idea if lennon would bring someone in because he's a mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Given the Green Brigade's inability to even spell Celtic, I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesacs Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 i've heard that big sutty regularly scoops with lennon up the west end. nae idea if lennon would bring someone in because he's a mate. i heard that Sutton was tee total...............Lennon on the other hand isny! Maybe John just takes him home in his taxi!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 there's a clear link between malcolm and stewart. guys that came through at big clubs, aren't as good as they think they are, are overpaid and are absolute nuggets. gow keeping sutton out the team pretty much summed up the change in our team between the start of october and the new year. the guy was a waster, never produced on the pitch yet was continually retained in the team, do you think that's unconnected to the turd performances we got against hearts, rangers and accies? the juke isn't a valid comparison. he clearly earned his stripes with goals and playing injured. remember this was a guy who got a puncture wound with stitched in his thigh on the saturday yet declared himself fit to play 30 mins as a sub on the wednesday. Gow and Blackman were/are very similar players, not a good partnership, and Blackman was better than Gow. Sutton or Murphy should have partnered either of them. The performances against Hearts, Rangers and Accies? Was Gow the only one on the park then? The entire team was poor in those 3 games, 2 of those games followed long lay offs and the entire team looked rusty. As for Accies, well Blackman was just as bad as Gow that day but was applauded off the park. One player had the the backing of the fans from day one, while the other was jeered every time he made a mistake. Do you think that's unconnected? You try something different, it doesn't come off and you are met with derision... great for the confidence eh? Anyway, I was irked at the inference that just because you didn't like both players they automatically became a bad influence in the dressing room. Had the pleasure of meeting Bob Malcolm off the park, and a nugget he certainly is not by the way - and stick thin into the bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Alan Gow league matches since leaving Falkirk 0 wins in 0 for Rangers - didn't play a game 4 wins in 17 for Blackpool - loan not renewed 4 wins in 13 for Norwich - loan not renewed 2 wins in 14 for Plymouth - Signed for 200K for 2 years, loaned after 6 months, released after 1 year 1 win in 7 for Hibs - loan not renewed 7 wins in 16 for Motherwell - short term contract not renewed 0 wins in 2 for Notts County Last 3 league victories in which Alan Gow played the majority of the game 06/11/10 ICT 1- 2 Mothewell subbed 84mins for Forbes 23/10/10 Motherwell 2 - 1 Dundee United subbed 78mins for Sutton 07/11/09 Plymouth 2 - 1 Doncaster subbed 69mins for Noone Last league victory where Gow played 90 minutes 10/03/09 Norwich 2 - 0 Cardiff ------------------------------------------- Aside from his spell at Fir Park he has been a loser (3 wins with us he came on as a sub after the game was won, last minute St.J, Hearts and 79mins up 3-0 vs St.J) for the last 3 years, he hasn't helped any of the clubs he has been with. If you want facts backing up that he is cancer at whatever club he goes to you only need to look at what he has achieved. His behaviour when negotiating with Swindon was called a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 So, in short, Gow playing in losing teams (along with another 10 or so players I assume?) prior to his spell at Motherwell - which was not a failure based on your stats and summary - make him a disruptive influence at Motherwell? Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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