hoof hearted Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I want to start by saying that I am a MAJOR Crags supporter. However, what I'd like to know, after nearly 50 caps for Northern Ireland whilst playing for us, IF those caps were for Scotland, would everyone be as delighted, chuffed, happy, content etc? I'm going to be honest, I've no idea of Northern Ireland's results and stats with Crags playing. I'm only thinking of this after reading this thread and the Reynolds thread and trying to compare our two centre backs. My drunken opinion, Crags for me is going to down as a club legend, but Reynolds as a defender will still be head and shoulders above him as a player. So what does everyone else think? Like I said, I'm no football or tactical genius, only saying what I see. whos his arse fur love bites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 it's kind of unfair to compare Stephen and Mark The age gap is one thing (lets see what Mark has done when he gets to his mid 30's) and as for playing for their country Mark will always struggle to get into the Scotland squad because he doesn't play for the old scum, if Mark were Welsh/Irish/Lithuanian he would be in the national squad without doubt at some point in his career. Any player's individual achievements should always be recognised and not undermined because of what someone else may or may not do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunnyMFC Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Craggs would prob never be in the Scotland team if he was Scottish as everyone has pointed out he doesn't play for the filth so on that basis he wouldn't get a sniff. Glad he played well last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Craigan would never have got near the Scotland team and deservedly so imo. I'm amazed by what he has achieved with NI over the years given that they have had a decent centre half or two from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 How deservedly so? Craigan is still Norn Iron's best centre half and a talisman. He doesn't owe his caps to injuries or anything, and as Euro 2008 Qualification proved Northern Ireland are a better team with him rather than without him. The last three managers at least have seen the Northern Ireland defence as Craigan +1, usually Aaron Hughes in the last few campaigns, with the much respected Jonny Evans (mainly only because the team he found himself at giants Manchester United) is shunted to left back to accomadate Craigan. Last time I spoke to a few Norn Iron fans they still don't forgive the manager for dropping Craigan against Iceland and Latvia in the European Qualification in 2008! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namvet Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well Done Craggs, 50 caps is a major achievment. Craigan is the first to admit that his footballing abilities are limited to say the least, but his commitment and most importantly his tremedous attitude to the game will mean that he will be classed as a legend long after he gives up the game not only at Motherwell but with his country also. I had the pleasure of talking to many Northern Irish fans in Prague last year and they had nothing but admiration for the guy. There are many on this website who feel he is a poor player and they are entitled to their opinion, but they will not really appreciate him until he hangs up his boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwellhighland Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 One of my best mates is N.Irish and fucking loves Craigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigColin08 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well done to Craigan 50 international caps for any country is a great achievment. And hes been solid for us and hopefully will be for a good bit yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Not to bothered about Northern Ireland but a 'Well legend! Remember he made his debut for us back in the McLeish era and a couple of seasons aside he's been at Fir Park the whole time, probably longer than a lot of the supporters! Claret and amber the whole way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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