Rickoza Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 The above is a quote from an Oldham fan as posted on Motherwell-Mad. Given the way we've been losing goals it'd be a positive move for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I noticed the criteria of Lower League England and Loan deal experience. Coke, Jennings, Humphrey and Juke, Ruddy, Blackman, Randolph have all proved that that is our market. However, the new man has to be able to blend and coach a team and get the best from them tactically week-in week-out. Perhaps we need 2 Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Its beginning to look as though the market we are trying to tap into for a manager is drying up fast as identified candidates drop out of contention fast. If that's the case I hope the club has a plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I hope the club has a plan B. Of course they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Plan B will be Tommy McLean or Jimmy Calderwood to the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics Fan Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I'm still going with Dickov, think he meets a lot of the required tick-boxes; Working with a small budget Working with a young squad - topped up with loan signings Working with a club currently "punching above it's weight". Oldham have average crowds of around 4500 like us. Only on a 12 month contract, so less than 9 months remaining. Very good links with various clubs (2 of which are top 4 in the Premiership), Exceptional close ties with Manchester City, who have a highly regarded youth set-up for tapping us into. Should have a good understanding of the Scottish game, possibly even a local lad, is he from Bellshill or i'm I thinking about Dougie Freedman???? Something a little bit different from the usual mob Ok he's only in his first season of management but proving to be coping well. I'm trying to locate a recent video about him from the Man City website but cannae find the link any longer, seemed like a decent chap going in the right direction. PS....Randolph would love Dickov's club trips to La Manga Punching above our weight? In League One? A league we've been in for like 12 years, I'd say we're right where we should be. I'll tell you this though, our attendances at home this season have been mainly just under 4,000 and just a couple of season ago we were gettin 6,000+. But expect your attendances to plummet if you hire that clown Dave Penney like the BBC is reporting, he's the master of boring, uninspiring, negative football. So if Penney really is in the frame, be very aware, apart from his dire football, his signings were generally piss poor and he didn't inspire any sort of enthusiasm and drive amongst the players and fans, like Dickov has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Plan B will be Tommy McLean or Jimmy Calderwood to the end of the season. I doubt they would take it under those circumstances. Jimmy certainly wants to be a full time manager, as for Tommy I believe he still fancies another shot at management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well73 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Plan B will be Tommy McLean or Jimmy Calderwood to the end of the season. Wee Tommy back....................... Basic Wages = £300 a week with a win bonus of say £1000? or whatever half the bonus for a draw so £300 + £500 Basic for no points. And fight for every ball on the park old school. I'd like to see how some of our players would react to that. Good shout Lobey get the wee man back coz this is doing my head in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlukemurray Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Get your money on Stuart McCall Seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 ...............Good shout Lobey get the wee man back coz this is doing my head in That's just it, I think we're all totally scunnered with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wee Tommy back....................... Basic Wages = £300 a week with a win bonus of say £1000? or whatever half the bonus for a draw so £300 + £500 Basic for no points. And fight for every ball on the park old school. I'd like to see how some of our players would react to that. Good shout Lobey get the wee man back cuz this is doing my head in :noteworthy: +1 anyone knows about working with nothing its the wee man ,if boring Broon can be brought out of mothballs then so can Tommy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Tommy had a lot more money to spend back then than he'd be given this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well73 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Tommy had a lot more money to spend back then than he'd be given this time around. Not too sure about that weeyin but he can work on a budget thats for sure! The point I was getting at was how gutless we were against Rang*^s and that he would fire the boys up for now. I also think players have too much power now and maybe the old skool way of doing it and training them might put a back bone into our now so soft team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Tommy had a lot more money to spend back then than he'd be given this time around. In his first years at Motherwell McLean had no cash whatsoever e.g selling Mauchlin and McAllister just to keep the club afloat. Anyway its not going to happen weeyin . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Mark Benstead posted on Twitter. My understanding is Motherwell hope to have new manager in place for this weekend. Meeting scheduled for tomorrow with preferred candidate. Led to believe it won't be Dave Penney who gets Motherwell job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Anone seen Sam Allardyce around Fir Park then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 If we were wanting to be ambitious we should have looked at Peter Taylor. Lots of contacts, good knowledge of the whole of England and only 6 months left on his Bradford deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 only 6 months left on his Bradford deal. I honestly don’t think we can even afford the 6 months compensation required to get him. It needs to be someone who is out of work I’m afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 As much as I respect your train of thought, this can't happen. I too thought Gannon was a good student of the game, and forged a development plan for Motherwell. But knowledge is only one aspect of football management; another is man management. Alas there is too much evidence around to indicate the man is an arse hole. I've never heard any such evidence. History's been rewritten and the man was demonised. Still never seen evidence or details of all these interviews he was having either (even though a few of us have asked on countless occassions) One mans 'poor man management' is another mans 'being undermined by the disaffected senior players' I'll say it again our club didn't have the ball to match Gannon's ambition. after a few bad results we shat it and backed Craigan and co. The contract situation was a convenient smoke screen. This could be one of the biggest fundamental mistakes in the recent history of the club. Of course I know he won't come back - it's just funny to see how we've disintegrated due to the failure to take any cognicence of our long term footballing plan under the messiah Brown. i say messiah because that's what most thought. Even though a few of us said many times that the foundations were being allowed to crumble with the obsession with getting points short term, We reap what we sow. Saturday summed up much much more about us than anything. Rangers players contested every ball and decision 500% stronger than us, Their arsehole support defiantly stood and urged their team on for the full 90 mins. As a club we sat on our arse in the stands (or more commonly - in the pub / house) and watch as they fuckin steamrollered us in a display of determination and solidarity Fuckin sickening We will struggle this time round to bring anyone in - we've little in the way of sellable assets (thanks Paul Slane etc) and we haven't sold anyone since Clarky and Quinn. Old Mother Hubbard Boyle's cupboard is bare. Most managers would run a mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Saturday summed up much much more about us than anything. Rangers players contested every ball and decision 500% stronger than us, Their arsehole support defiantly stood and urged their team on for the full 90 mins. As a club we sat on our arse in the stands (or more commonly - in the pub / house) and watch as they fuckin steamrollered us in a display of determination and solidarity Fuckin sickening Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky79 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I've never heard any such evidence. History's been rewritten and the man was demonised. Still never seen evidence or details of all these interviews he was having either (even though a few of us have asked on countless occassions) One mans 'poor man management' is another mans 'being undermined by the disaffected senior players' I'll say it again our club didn't have the ball to match Gannon's ambition. after a few bad results we shat it and backed Craigan and co. The contract situation was a convenient smoke screen. This could be one of the biggest fundamental mistakes in the recent history of the club. Of course I know he won't come back - it's just funny to see how we've disintegrated due to the failure to take any cognicence of our long term footballing plan under the messiah Brown. i say messiah because that's what most thought. Even though a few of us said many times that the foundations were being allowed to crumble with the obsession with getting points short term, We reap what we sow. Saturday summed up much much more about us than anything. Rangers players contested every ball and decision 500% stronger than us, Their arsehole support defiantly stood and urged their team on for the full 90 mins. As a club we sat on our arse in the stands (or more commonly - in the pub / house) and watch as they fuckin steamrollered us in a display of determination and solidarity Fuckin sickening We will struggle this time round to bring anyone in - we've little in the way of sellable assets (thanks Paul Slane etc) and we haven't sold anyone since Clarky and Quinn. Old Mother Hubbard Boyle's cupboard is bare. Most managers would run a mile You good at the revisionism yourself, exactly what do you base your faith in Gannon on? A few mouthy statements from Gannon and not a whole lot else. Barring the general lack of home support and money we are in better shape now than when Gannon walked out. Still fairly perilous but turn aroundable. Any issues over youth development should be laid at Youngs door not Broons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Any issues over youth development should be laid at Youngs door not Broons! Going by past results Gordon Young has done a good job with our youth development. We now need a manager who can take them on to the next level. Gannon briefly showed with his youthful team selections he would attempt to do just that. When it comes to players, I think Craig Brown probably prefers to go down the more experienced route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 You good at the revisionism yourself, exactly what do you base your faith in Gannon on? A few mouthy statements from Gannon and not a whole lot else. Barring the general lack of home support and money we are in better shape now than when Gannon walked out. Still fairly perilous but turn aroundable. Any issues over youth development should be laid at Youngs door not Broons! -A team that were trying to play the ball on the ground from the back forward. -The young players Forbes, Saunders, Hutchison, Murphy showing promise and in some cases having the best spells of their careers to date -some really strong signings tha has seen us through 2010 (do you remember the summer 0f 09). - A reasonably strong league position that but for a poor December would have been much stronger (pretty much exactly where we are now) - A vision of how teams like Motherwell should move forward in the future - A team riding top of the fair play league. Apart from that, you are right, not a whole lot else. How are we in a stronger position now btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Going by past results Gordon Young has done a good job with our youth development. We now need a manager who can take them on to the next level. Gannon briefly showed with his youthful team selections he would attempt to do just that. When it comes to players, I think Craig Brown probably prefers to go down the more experienced route. Which is why they will be fine inthe short term but back to being a mess again in two years or so. Unless of course Fyvie turns out to be a world beater. Anyway, back at the ranch. Penney now out the running? Who is the preferred candidate now? McCall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well73 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 -A team that were trying to play the ball on the ground from the back forward.-The young players Forbes, Saunders, Hutchison, Murphy showing promise and in some cases having the best spells of their careers to date -some really strong signings tha has seen us through 2010 (do you remember the summer 0f 09). - A reasonably strong league position that but for a poor December would have been much stronger (pretty much exactly where we are now) - A vision of how teams like Motherwell should move forward in the future - A team riding top of the fair play league. Apart from that, you are right, not a whole lot else. How are we in a stronger position now btw? Fair point well made Star Sail. Also liked Gannon and I know older players and some of the staff didn't get on with him but I still say he was good for the club in the way of giving young players a chance. He will never be back so end of, which is unfortunate but on wards and upwards. Back the new guy to the hilt, we need something to get the fans back, we need to have a go at teams and maybe with a bit of flair . The club need to get this right or our fan base will just keep getting smaller. MON THE WELL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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