Modernist Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I don't know all (any) of the facts but would love to be enlightened........... Please do...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Plenty of people on this site may not know all the facts, but know enough to acknowledge that Gannon was in danger of doing more damage to the club/team had he stayed. Now it may be these people including myself were being lied to by all and sundry, but I suspect not. Seconded. JG had his strengths but also his weaknesses. The fact of the matter was that he wanted to leave some months before he actually departed and had been showing an interest in other jobs shall we say. Many said he was working his ticket. More to it than that of course but that'll do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 SD has not spoken to anyone in the club, (Says who? I certainly never said anything either way) yet he knows that Gannon was misrepresented and is in fact Jose mourinho. (he's never said that) Plenty of people on this site may not know all the facts, (that's what he and others have been saying) but know enough to acknowledge that Gannon was in danger of doing more damage to the club/team had he stayed. Now it may be these people including myself were being lied to by all and sundry, but I suspect not. Like we've said many times - folk didn't like it up them and you've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette. FWIW I was delighted we appointed Gannon and said as much before it was official. But please do by all means keep preaching your message - something tells me you will I'm not preaching any message - I'm just discusssing the issues that are unfolding and offering my opinion. The profile of who we are after is pretty much the profile of the guy we discarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Seconded. JG had his strengths but also his weaknesses. The fact of the matter was that he wanted to leave some months before he actually departed and had been showing an interest in other jobs shall we say. Many said he was working his ticket. More to it than that of course but that'll do. Any proof ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 JG left over a year a go. We are looking for a new manager now. let it go boys..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Stop asking difficult questions you. the old 'someone in the club told me' joker card has been played. I heard from someone in the club that he killed grannies and buried them under the park - that's how the ush got gubbed. Must be true. I heard from someone in the club that the same board of directors who appointed Gannon knew the full facts and decided to tell him to GTF after 5 months in the job. That's good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 See the folk that are asking for proof....what are you looking for? I mean, someone with a genuine contact and who is genuinely in the know, is gonna be the last person to betray that trust. So...what would satisfy your need for proof? If for example someone says he was interviewed for another job that he applied for, what would it take? Something that's impossible to provide i'll bet...so whats the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 See the folk that are asking for proof....what are you looking for? I mean, someone with a genuine contact and who is genuinely in the know, is gonna be the last person to betray that trust. So...what would satisfy your need for proof? If for example someone says he was interviewed for another job that he applied for, what would it take? Something that's impossible to provide i'll bet...so whats the point? Someone who is genuinely in the know seems to be telling a lot of stories ? Again if it's that bad, why not disclose to all ? Transparency and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I really don't get the big inquest into Jim Gannon's departure (especially a year after the event). The board who appointed him 5 months previously and were in full posession of the facts decided it was in the best interests of Motherwell FC to part company with him. Having watched the teams performances leading up to that decision and subsequently heard of the unrest within the squad I am glad that he was given the boot. Surely the onus is on the people who disagree with the decision to provide facts on why it was wrong rather than the other way round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well here is one contradiction. The official club statement read "Over the past couple of months it has become abundantly clear that the manager was not fully committed to the club and, despite our best efforts, he repeatedly refused to sign a contract." Brown wouldn't sign a contract either, but the board didn't see that as an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well here is one contradiction. The official club statement read "Over the past couple of months it has become abundantly clear that the manager was not fully committed to the club and, despite our best efforts, he repeatedly refused to sign a contract." Brown wouldn't sign a contract either, but the board didn't see that as an issue. Gannon refused to sign a contract but I've never seen any quotes to show that Brown was ever offered one. According to Derek Johnstone on radio clyde (I know it'sprobably not true but he says he knows him) Brown was asking for a contract but Motherwell refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Gannon stated that he was prepared to sign a contract but the club could never draft it in a way that reflected discussions. i don't know the truth in that. Possibly someone in the know will know It just strikes me that depending on the cast - we seem to be prepared to have distict views of the same story. The contract situation - Gannon being difficult, Craig being a gent Gannon's man management - or things being made difficult for him Disrespect of senior pros - or senior pros not getting with the programme. we'll never know really Fuck - even though it'll implicate no-one - nobody seems to be able to offer one club that the devil himself was interviewed for We're led to believe that he moaned about the quality of his tracksuit ( aye right) - what a c**t eh? when we had 670 pages on here about folk complaining that their replica shirt couldnt withstand a scraping doon a roughcast wall whilst pished - that's ok for us tho He was a c**t for moaning about / winding up Dallas - yet we've been on the receiving end of som hellish ref displays this season at fir park this year and we've had no end of guys on here moaning, quite rightly about it - reams of it in fact. So again Ok for us, not OK for Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Jim Gannon picked Yassin Moutouaoutatoukakil. end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretbandonambershirt Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 This thread is becoming depressing. I'm logging on looking for news of our "new" manager and we are talking about previous managers like Gannon etc. coming back. I hope hell freezers over before we take back what we discarded or left because they had better opportunities. What is the point in that? Yes people rightly have their own views on what was good and bad about ex-managers, but they are EX and that should be that. The Club's board has their criteria for a new manager and they know more than we do so I am leaving it in their capable hands. Whoever we get I will support 100%. To me one of the biggest issues is that manager's have to live in and work in north Lanarkshire. They have families and many people would not deliberately choose north Lanarkshire as the place they want to live. I don't like to say it but it is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Why do they have to live in North Lanarkshire? Auld Broon stayed in Ayr and could make it to his work everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorator Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well here is one contradiction. The official club statement read "Over the past couple of months it has become abundantly clear that the manager was not fully committed to the club and, despite our best efforts, he repeatedly refused to sign a contract." Brown wouldn't sign a contract either, but the board didn't see that as an issue. in one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Anybody seen Burns' rag yet to see who this "initial candidate" is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Gannon refused to sign a contract but I've never seen any quotes to show that Brown was ever offered one. According to Derek Johnstone on radio clyde (I know it'sprobably not true but he says he knows him) Brown was asking for a contract but Motherwell refused. Brown was offered a contract but wanted clauses built in which the club wouldn't agree to. Now the main reason folk like me and others stick up for Gannon is those who still feel the need to slate him even after all this time keep bringing him back up. If Broon wouldn't sign because of small print he's in the same boat as the previous incumbent. Personal likes or dislikes, tales and titttle tattle won't make a case for either but what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If something seems unfair or not right then it's fair game to be commented on, thing is none of us know for sure what went on with Gannon but too many are prepared to simply believe what they're fed without question. If that's the case then fine but don't keep sniping and expect everyone to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Anybody seen Burns' rag yet to see who this "initial candidate" is? mccall according to the back page of the star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn_Broomfield Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 mccall according to the back page of the star. Disaster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Disaster... Why do you think that ? He has good experience and contacts, he might be just what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Disaster... The only person I could see it being after Burns' hint last night. God help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Why do you think that ? He has good experience and contacts, he might be just what we need Can I what this good experience is and who the good contacts specifically are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 I'd take McCall. Far from convinced but worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 We need somone in ASAP so why not McCall, he was a reasonably high profile player in his day so he will get the respect of the younger players, used to working with little or no money, alleged good contacts in the game. We should judge the new manager at the end of the season, not now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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